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Shari Gold
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Posted: Mon Aug 11th, 2008 21:15 |
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Hello,
This is my first time posting although I have read over both this site, MP site and Bacteriality for a few months now so I am pretty up to speed on things.
My D -metabloite tests were deranged:
25 D -- 20
1,25 D -- 58
I was diagnosed w/ Lyme at 19 and I am 37 now. I have all sorts of problems, many too long to go into, but ... the short list is:
Neuropathy, muscle atrophy, some cardiac arrythimia, MCS, gluten intolerance, CFS, Fibromyositis, brain fog, high levels of Hg ..... just to name a few.
So far, so good on the MP. I started it on Wed of last week and today marks the 6th day. The Benicar was giving me a herx in the beginning, but mild. It flared some of my muscle pain and a little dizzyness. I started off the protocol w/ just the Benicar to make sure it was tolerable for a few days. Once I added the first dose of Mino @ 25 mg, again just more of the same. My second dose of Mino, @50 mg ... I had an Ah hah... moment -- mostly GI stuff ... a duller version of the stabbing pain I get when I eat Wheat. Very excited about that. Oh.. and from day one on the Benicar my sinuses have been draining like crazy!
Today was my 3rd dose on the Minocycline. Again at 50 mg. I am wondering, at what point could I increase my dosage or how long should I stay at the lower dose if the herx is incredibly mild? I am staying inside as much as possible, cut out the Vit D for over a month now... no coffee etc... so I know my VDR blockade should be good.
At one point last year, I was doing a Hg detox taking DMSA orally. It really made me quite ill and frightenend my husband I (and me) quite a bit. I lost close to 15 pds in a little over a week, not good. So I don't want to rush things, but I do feel like I can tolerate more and I really would like to get the show on the road  .
Thanks for any input.
Best,
Shari
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Posted: Tue Aug 12th, 2008 01:53 |
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Shari,
You say you've been doing a lot of reading, which is great, but you seem to have missed out on the essential Phase 1 guidelines. They set out precisely how to take Benicar and minocycline, and they must be very strictly followed for your safety. Please print them out and refer to them often.
Note that it says: It usually takes a week or two to stabilize symptoms on the Benicar blockade alone.
Note that it says about minocycline: Allow a week or more between increased doses.
Please see also I'm eager to get well. How can I speed up my progress on the MP?
Julia 
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Shari Gold
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Posted: Tue Aug 12th, 2008 03:48 |
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Hi Julia,
Thanks for getting back to me. I did in fact read the Phase I guidelines, but should have re-read for more clarification Step 8. Thank you.
I guess I really did not experience any immunopathy from the 25 mg dose within a 24 hour period. I did go up to the 50 mg no problem with only a slight increase in fatigue and some GI symptoms. Also, I was taking the Benicar every 8 hours for the first few days and could almost feel "when" the blockade was decreasing so I am on the 6 hour Benicar blockade now. My second dose of the 50 mg Minocyline did elicit more pronounced fatigue, but I will take it slow and see how it goes tomorrow.
Also, before starting the MP a few months ago, I was on a pretty high dose of Doxycycline for about a month. I am wondering if that perhaps could be a reason I am not having a stronger reaction to the Minocycline at this point?
What I really notice is more of a reaction to the Benicar after I take it. It is more like an overall tiredness/ Fibro trigger points and then the Mino sort of magnifies that.
So I will be "careful" and stick closer to the rules. I guess I have felt pretty bad for so long that even when I am having immunopathy I keep expecting a really bad surge or something ... how I would feel after a day in too much sun and then major aching muscles, headaches, and severe light sensativity ... sort of bracing myself for the worst  but so far pleasantly surprised and able to deal with everything. Thanks again.
Best,
Shari
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Shari Gold
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Posted: Tue Aug 12th, 2008 06:07 |
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An update... for those of us who are a little too ahead of ourselves here.
I just had a really GOOD herx tonight around 8:30, about 10 hours after my does of Minocyclin -- I have MAJOR FATIGUE
I am going to see how I am feeling tomorrow and take it one step at a time.
This feeling I know well. It isn't like the pain/ neuro symptoms I have from a solar flare. More like how I felt when I was first diagnosed w/ Lyme disease some 18 years ago and took my first round of Ab, when my immune system was actually working. I would take the Ab and then pretty much be exhausted for the rest of the day.
Hooray.. never felt so great to feel this way again!
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Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 18:52 |
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Hello again.
I was just reviewing the list of foods to avoid again. Most of that list needs no explanation. I cannot eat wheat anyway, so bread is usually not an issue for me. And I've stayed away from anything that says "enriched" on it for a long time. But, I do have a question in general. Obviously, oatmeal is a grain and has a lot of carbs, but on occasion, I would love to have half a serving at breakfast. I love the Trader Joes steel cut oats and I do not see any indication on the box of added folic acid. The vitamin A content is 0. So would something like this, on occasion, be okay? I am on the leaner side in general and since staring the MP I have already lost a couple of pounds. I also see no other indication on the list to avoid rice. Would this be okay in moderation as well?
Thank you.
Shari Gold
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Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 19:54 |
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SGold,
I eat simple oatmeal, sometimes, for all the reasons you list. Some rules of thumb that have helped me sort through different options of same, and other foods to eat:
- If the food is not on the FOODS TO AVOID list, then you are likely OK.
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- If it only has one ingredient listed on the nutritional label, then you are likely OK.
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- If you eat a lot of different foods and don't depend on any one as a main "can't live without" food, you are likely OK.
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- If you don't add a lot of problematic ingredients (sugars, sweeteners, D-laced milk products or any other D-laced item, supplemental folates, soy, chlorogenic acid sources, etc.), you are likely OK.
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- Fresh is best, try lotsa veggies (grow your own for really fresh), even get in-season local items at nearby farmer's markets.
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- MP Food Choices Simplified is helpful.
Hope you continue to look into the alphabetically indexed topical FAQ on the study site, to find answers to your questions. Good to see you are doing some reading already.
This is your questions thread to ask more, I look forward to seeing your posts.
Best to you SGold--Janet
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Shari Gold
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Posted: Thu Aug 14th, 2008 05:58 |
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Janet,
Thanks for your help. I do read this site regularly .. too much sometimes and start doing loops around my poor little "fogged" mind at times. Guidance from folks like you makes all the difference.
Thank you again
Shari
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Shari Gold
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Posted: Fri Aug 15th, 2008 00:22 |
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How long in darkness?
Wondering how long I will need to live most of my life indoors
Hi again... if anyone could help me out with this one.
From my reading, I understand that I will have to have a significant reduction in Vit D sources to heal (ie sun, food sources). Thus far, I have really begun to see some positives and I just started the MP about a week ago. I have had two significant herxes ... one was a wall of fatigue that subsided in about a day, and at the end of that wall of fatigue, I felt .... so light and calm. I felt so much like the old self I used to know. I was almost giddy. I know others who have been down this road before know what I am talking about. I was just reading a thread of another MP'er who described very similiar circumstances.
At the end of my second herx... which has been today, I can tell I am going to feel that way again. What is so interesting is that this second herx is very different than the first. I was expecting that wall of fatigue... instead, I got fever and chills which have carried on until today. My fever is coming down now and I am feeling much better. I have also been fighting a cold that started, ironically the same day that I started the Benicar -- I'm sure this is no surprise for others here. But what is truly amazing is that a cold like this would normally progress onwards to acute bronchitis. I am good for at least 3 bouts of bronchitis a year that usually requires Zithromax and still hangs on a bit. Here I am still with sinus drainage and a little bit of phlegm in my chest, but this is not like in the past. I seem to be fighting it so much better.
Obviously, I know for each person, the circumstances are different and honestly, the hardest thing in trying to maximize my herx by remaining in my cave, is the effect that is is having on my family. I hope that in the next few weeks, my husband, who is quite skeptical, will see the positive changes and realize that I am finally on the correct path. He has been down this road before with the Mercury detox (quite scary) and the Rife machine ... which well... didn't do much for me. But... how long do I have to live indoors (in general). I tend to be not so light sensitive w/ respect to my eyes, but I am taking a lot of precautions with my NOIRS. I do notice senstiivity if I stare at my laptop too long, but in terms of the sunlight issue, I do notice that when I am outside completely covered up, the sun shining on my clothes or through my clothes feels like my skin is on fire since starting the Benicar ... weird.
Am I correct in my understanding that as I heal and kill more of the pathogens, there are less of them able affect the VDR and therefore, my exposure to sunlight (in the future) will provoke less 1,25 D to be manafactured in my skin? Not that I was a sun goddess before, but obviously, being able to come out from my dark room and spend time w/ my family in our family room, "the land of the living" my husband sarcastically joked ... would be lovely. I have two little girls ages 5 and 8 who are bored, bored, bored right now. As soon as it is dusk, I am always up for fun ... it is just the rest of the day that we have to contend with. Can't wait for school to start again
Thanks for any help on this.
Best,
Shari Gold
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Posted: Fri Aug 15th, 2008 02:46 |
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But... how long do I have to live indoors (in general).
It may be 18 months or more, depending. Everyone is different. You can go out for very short periods if you are very well covered and wear your darkest glasses. You'll find what works for you and what doesn't.
I hope you aren't actually sitting in the dark! No need for that, you just have to block out the sunshine, then you can use low watt incandescent bulbs (40 or 60 watts) to light the area. As long as you keep the artificial light below 30 lux (about 4 feet from a 40 watt bulb or 6 from a 60 watter) you'll be probably be fine without the Noirs. For TV and computer, the 10% Noirs are suggested.
If you can get your house lightproofed, then you will be able to be around the family safely. Going out after dark is good too.
There's plenty of info in the website about how to lightproof your rooms. Do some searching around and you'll find it.
As for hubby being skeptical, be sure he knows you are supposed to feel bad, but it's predictable. That's a tough one for many people to get their head around. It's no different than chemo. It makes you feel bad, but it kills the bad things in you in the process.
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Shari Gold
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Posted: Fri Aug 15th, 2008 04:15 |
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Thanks for that. I am actually not "in the dark" but my master bedroom is blacked out for sure. It really is a little cave in the sense that I don't have natural light coming through. Since my husband has to live in the room too, I have blackout curtains that can be opened and closed and some black plastic over the bathroom window that can be taken down when it is dark and he is home.
I stay pretty much in my little space. My downstairs family room is darkened w/ the shades down, but natural light still gets through. It is really dark, but my shades are the type of shades that are sort of bamboo and backed w/ a white fabric so some natural light gets through. Mostly when I am down there w/ my kids during the day I am covered head to toe and wear my NOIRs, but my face isn't completely covered. So am I pretty okay that way? I think I am and obviously, I still have to make a few trips out during the day and do so completely covered (w/ gloves too), but the time that I am home and if I am in the not completely "blacked out" rooms w/ regards to some natural light still getting through, I hope that I am not provoking too much vit D synthesis given the precautions I am taking.
Thanks!
Shari
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Shari Gold
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 20:26 |
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Help.... I don't know where to turn on this one and it seems to be my biggest obstacle with my family right now.
Doing the MP isn't the problem in fact I am very surprised with my progress and tolerance so far.
The hardest part right now is that my husband and I are really butting heads about it. He keeps arguing w/ me about the light in the house. I have sanctioned the upstairs bedroom for my "space" and when I go out into the house where there is still natural light I cover up. He is really being belligerent about the whole thing and I just feel so isolated and frustrated. We also have two small children who I know this is having an effect on. I want to get better as fast as possible so I am really trying to stick to all the recommendations, but I fear this is really going to be a difficult process because of the personal problems. I have explained the science behind the reasoning of sunlight/ vit D and he somewhat understands, but his stance on it is that it has an effect on "others" in the house and I get that, I am trying to be sensitive to their feelings but also get well.
Does anyone have any good advice on this one?
Thanks,
Shari
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 21:33 |
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Shari,
Been there, done that. Decided to get well anyway as being dead and dying miserably was clearly worse than non-supportive angst  .
One very big elephant in the room you both might not be aware of is just how many spouses are ill with the pathogens they've shared as a couple. If your spouse has a very negative reaction to changes in light and is causing a lot of ruckus about it, something pathogenic might be yanking hard on his cognition processes (not to mention kindness and courtesy subroutes).
Consider it a strong possibility that your spouse and at some point in time, your children, will likely have to work on the get well process too. Loss of rational judgement capability about one's own illness, and flat out denial and antagonism that you are seeing is a red flag of sorts.
Fortunately, there are some great insights from many who worked out some kind of an arrangement with family members. Here are some of the best:
Personal, Family, Relationship Tips
FAQs and personal experience
Some of my family members appear to have Th1 inflammatory symptoms. What should they do?
Suggestions for managing the MP for several household members
How does Th1 inflammation develop? What is successive infection?
Will re-infection occur if my partner or family members are not treated?
Am I contagious?
Can reinfection occur once we are healed?
How will the MP affect my life? Can I continue to work?
or play or manage my Family?
Best to you and yours Shari--Janet
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 21:36 |
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he somewhat understands, but his stance on it is that it has an effect on "others" in the house
What effect is that?
The rest of your family have the whole outdoors available to them if they so desire. You don't. How does this make them the victims? It sounds to me like your husband is in a massive state of denial and would just rather have you "be better" so he didn't have to make any changes. Sure, kids should have a mother who isn't sick, but in this case they don't. It sounds like a typical response of denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. Your family is bouncing around in the first 3 right now. They'll get used to the new way after a while; you need to stick to your guns.
Frankly, I think your husband needs to grow up and accept his responsibility to you and your kids by getting you well again, no matter what it takes. (I seem to recall something in my marriage vows about sickness and health, better or worse. Or does he just want to skip ahead to the last part of that line?) If you were to give up the MP, what would be the outcome? A few years of "normalcy" while you decline and eventually crash? Would he tell you to not go onto chemo if you had cancer because it might upset things? Th1 can and does kill people, and it does it in a slow, ugly, painful way. Maybe he just hasn't understood how serious your condition is. Goodness, how inconsiderate of you to be ill.
People, especially kids, will live up to your expectations of them. Here is their chance to step up and help Mom get better. Everybody in the family should have a part to play if they are over the age of 4. Every little bit helps, and then "we" are fighting this disease, not just "you". In the meantime, don't concentrate on the things you can't do, concentrate on the things you can do!
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 22:04 |
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Thank you for your pep talk, I wish you were here to help argue at my side. I am definitely one to stick to my guns ... in fact, your example of chemo was one I actually brought up. You don't "sort of do" chemo treatments. I have a friend going through chemo for breast cancer and the whole family has come together around her == and that includes friends too.
I guess since this is not the "mainstream medicine" approach, he feels this way. If this was the accepted treatment for FM, CFS etc.. and was mandated that full compliance in the realm of sunlight eliminated from the house, then it would be easier to have everyone get on board. People are really funny about sunlight and well... liking it, especially in S. California.
My daughters are helping the best they can. They have seen me at my worst for sure. It is also really difficult b/c my oldest has Type1 diabetes and her treatment and monitoring is so 24/7 and intensive. I only have a few friends that I trust her to have playdates with at all, so for two little kids and being stuck in the house, with no place to go, I get the guilt trip laid on me. You are right, they do have the whole outdoors and as a child of the 70's I did not have my parents waiting around trying to entertain me... we just left the house at sun up and entertained ourselves and came home at dinner time... but I live in LA and I wouldn't trust my kids to make it in our neighborhood a day when people zoom around talking on cell phones at speeds close to 50 mph.
And, I guess he is trying, but this back and fourth is exhausting on an emotional level. I just hope I am able to progress as quickly as possible and then have some tangible, outward example like the spot of morphea (localized scleraderma) on my back magically vanishing and then I can say ... see!!!!! It's working and I am better for it. Then he gets with the program and gets behind me ... That is sort of how he works and I guess most people in general work that way.
Thanks for the mental pick me up .... I need it ... especially feeling so on my own here.
Shari
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Shari Gold
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Thank you Janet for your kind words of encouragement. It is nice to hear that you, yourself was up against a similar set of circumstances and trudged forth and got better. I share your same belief that I am choosing to move ahead, despite the inconvenience it is causing others ... but I wish there was some magic switch I could flip to get everyone onboard.
Your links were most helpful and I am very suspicious that my husband might have Th1 infection as well. He has been suffering from terrible insomnia that has really started to ramp up in the last few years, not to mention recurrent sinus infections. Given that we have been married 10 years and together for 12, the time line seems to be about right. Obviously, my daughter has active Th1 w/ her diabetes .... and they are on the agenda for a possible probe in the future... right now, just trying to deal with my own health before I can save everyone else. But.. I know the hubby is up for a full physical soon and there is no harm in getting a D metabolite test tacked onto his CBC! Perhaps that will solve a lot of things!
Best to you ...
Shari
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Posted: Sun Aug 17th, 2008 23:51 |
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Shari,
You might want to let your husband read this recent post by another husband, so he can see that a different perspective toward one's spouse might be considered. What a surprise to have just read your post and then read his. Notice also this man had the gumption to get D tests and listened to his wife when she told him the truth about what he really needed to know to avoid trouble. He gets a "hero" recognition in my book.
My personal opinion:
Good men do exist, and I'm glad for the reminder. God bless them. We all should learn from them.
My advocate opinion:
Everybody now has a fantastic opportunity to really 1) learn about their own health and 2) get well, where little valuable information on those two topics existed before the MP. Even the ones currently in denial about their own pathogens, and even if they may be actively or inadvertantly blocking the path of their spouse or family member who has chosen the MP.
It is a gift to now be able to choose well, and get well--Janet
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Hi Janet,
Thanks again for your insight.
Some good news .. my husband has in his own way made peace with my getting well. I think the fact that I haven't had a terrible reaction thus far has been a comfort to him. I know he was really worried when I was going through my mercury detox (which was not beneficial) so he was very much "afraid" for me.
Also, I have found some balance in terms of the light issue in my house. So far so good and I can only hope as I progress and get better that he will get more onboard with me.
For some reason, I have always had to "prove" things to the people in my life. I seem to keep picking people like that in my life. I guess it makes me that much more committed to the end result!
Best,
Shari
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For some reason, I have always had to "prove" things to the people in my life.
Stubbornness does seem to be one of the side-effects of TH1, and I do think that TH1 folks tend to find one other.
I had the other side of your problem, trying to convince my wife I wasn't jumping off a cliff doing the MP, and then convincing her to join me. It's been quite the ride so far.
Best wishes. And don't be so tentative about getting your husbands D-metabolites tested. It sounds like you folks are about 20 years younger than we are, and I'd be happy to fill his ears with what happens, and what he'll miss out on, if he delays for 20 years.
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Thank you Chris for your encouraging words.
My husband surprised me last night when I brought up the "subject". I had just read one of Amy Proal's latest posts on Bacteriality.com. Out of nowhere, my husband brings up a point about Vitamin D and what he had read about one of Dr. Marshall's findings. I was shocked to say the least and just smiled and agreed. I guess he has been doing some "late night" internet research on his own. He gets insomnia pretty bad (hello Th1) and is sometime up until 4 AM. So he is coming around.
You are so funny about the jumping off the cliff. I know what you mean. Those first few days when I buried myself upstairs in my darkened "safe room", I know he thought I was nuts. But... I know that as he has watched me go through a somewhat predictable pattern now... after I take my Ab, he is starting to see the light.
What is most fascinating (and I have read this on previous posts from other MP participants) is now that I am starting my 4th week, I have already had a weird little skin condition spontaneously "heal". This is something I've had for 15 years and that I have previously had cauterized (sp?) 2x. Both times, it grew back and I sort of though .. oh well, won't be doing that again if it just is going to grow back (bigger). Well... I happened to notice today that it is GONE! Wow.
So ... little steps like that are HUGE and I know as I progress it will only get better!
I may take you up on your offer to fill him in on yours and your wifes progress. We are 37/38 and my health has been in the decline for the last 19 years ... and his is only starting to have significant (seemingly unrelated) symptoms.
Thank you again for the support and input. It makes this process so much more do-able, hearing from people who have been there ... done that before
Best,
Shari
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Another question about food ... obviously, I am cutting out Vit D. My big protein these days is egg (no yolks). B/C cholesterol is a precursor for Vit D formation, is there a magic number for mg of cholesterol that is okay? The reason I ask is that I have been going along and herxing at a tolerable rate ... and then I noticed that I seemed to not really plateau at my 50 mg dosage.
I was reading the package on my boneless/ skinless frozen chicken breast and low and behold it was about 35 mg cholesterol per serving. Also... a bigger no no was the turkey burgers (which are lean) but apparently still full of cholesterol at 100 mg per serving! I think I answered my question in terms of my herx possibly being downplayed a bit b/c my 25 D was probably higher than it should have been.
Just wondering what anyone's thoughts are on meat consumption and how often?
What a shock to read that 100 mg on the turkey burgers after I had already consumed one a few days before .. I always think of Turkey/ Chicken being low in fat and cholesterol ---  woops!
Thanks,
Shari
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