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1ST VIT. D TEST...IS MP FOR ME? ?
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GAPeach
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Location: Georgia USA
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 Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 01:07

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Briefly list your diagnosis or symptoms. (around 2 lines at the most).  Lyme, MCS, Fibro, C.Fatigue

-The date the blood was drawn: 8/7/8

-Which lab did the tests?: 25D - Doctors Laboratory, 1,25D - ARUP LABORATORIES

-Was the 1,25-D sample was frozen for shipment?: YES

-How long have you been avoiding foods with vitamin D in them?: HAVE NOT BEEN AVOIDING.

-How long have you been avoiding sun/lights?: MOSTLY STAY INSIDE OUT OF SUN.  NO OTHER SPECIAL PRECAUTIONS TAKEN.

-List all meds, supplements (both prescription and OTC) you have been taking and why. 

DIGESTIVE ENZYMES, B-COMPLEX, CREATINE, GLUTAMINE, BIO-FLAVINOIDS(off & on), D-RIBOSE, L-THEANINE, 5-HTP, BIOTIN, B12 TABS(enteric), MSM,  HOMEOPATHICS from APEX: (vary each month) THYROID, ADRENAL, BRAND SPECIFIC(can list if needed)  , FLOWER REMEDIES, SAM-e




-When and for how long have you taken prednisone or any other immunosuppressant in any form? DECADRON SHOT IM X 1 TIME 1997.

-When and for how long did you take Vitamin D supplements (including any vitamin-mineral supplements), omega-3 supplements and/or any kind of fish oil? CURRENTLY TAKING OMEGA Q PLUS(EPA, DHA, L-Carnitine, CoQ10, Vit-E, B6, B12, FolicAcid)

-Were you taking Benicar when the sample was drawn? NO

-Were you taking an ARB or or an ACE inhibitor when the sample was drawn? NO

- Please add the required signature line: ADDED



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LYME/MCS/JOINT STIFFNESS/C.FATIGUE/WHEELCHAIR PH1NotStartedYet 25D26ng/ml 1,25D41pg/ml NoPrescriptionMeds

NOT CERTAIN IF MP PERTAINS TO ME
P.Bear R.N.
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 Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 05:37

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Ga Peach.

Your 1,25-D is elevated at 41pg/ml (the population average is 25-29 pg/ml). It is 1.26
 sigma high and based on population studies,  89.60% of the population would be expected to have a lower number. As we have no experience with ARUP labs as far as I know, your number may have been higher if done at Quest diagnostics that usually can be counted on the run the test properly. Your number would also have been higher if you were not suppressing your immune function with adrenal replacements.

Your 1,25-D is nearing the maximum of 45pg/ml listed in the Merck Manual of Diagnosis and Therapy (15 Oct 2006 online). At levels above about 42 pg/ml, the 1,25-D (generated by the Th1 inflammation) begins to stimulate bone osteoclasts,  causing bone to be resorbed (dissolved) back into the bloodstream. Not only does this lead to osteoporosis, but also to calcium being deposited into soft tissue of the body, including the lungs, breasts, and the kidneys (where it forms kidney stones). Please see Osteoporosis, osteopenia and Th1 illness.

Your 25-D of  26ng/ml is high enough to dampen innate immune response. Because 25-D is immunosuppressive, you need to avoid ALL sources of Vitamin D to get it down to a therapeutic level of 12ng/ml or less. Please see Foods To Avoid and The importance of avoiding vitamin D.

 "The 25-D seems to be the most critical factor as to whether the immune system is able to start working. Any level of 25-D above about 20ng/ml is likely to be acting as an immunosuppressant, with an action very similar to that of corticosteroids." Dr. Trevor Marshall, Ph.D.

Your D-tests, diagnosis and symptoms indicate Th1 inflammation. Please see Symptoms of Hypervitaminosis-D and you may recognize a few more. You will not get well and your health will continue to deteriorate if you don't treat the underlying bacterial cause of Th1 inflammation with the MP. Please see Is the MP an applicable treatment for my disease?

Most supplements and many medications must be avoided on the MP. Most of the things you are taking are contraindicated; particularly adrenal "support", omega 3s and folic acid.

Our clinical study is temporarily closed to enrollment. As vacancies occur, we will admit subjects based on an application. To obtain an application forum, please send an email to marshallprotocol2@yahoo.com  with 'request MP application' in the subject line.
best, P.B.



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