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Glenn K
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 Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 15:48

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Have had chronic fatigue syndrome/ fibro myalgia for 4 yrs. Suffer from body pain, depression, sore throats, fatigue, brain fog etc..

Blood was drawn on the 30/07/08

Clinipath pathology in WA did the tests

The sample was not frozen as test was done at main lab

Although I do not intake much food with high vitamin d levels I have been avoiding them for about a month

I have not been trying to avoid sunlight but again do not get much

All current meds and supps:

-Efexor 150mg p/d-depression

-Vitamin b complex- ulcers

- Magnesium

-Acetyl l-carnitine- to help with pain

Meds that have stopped:

-Ms contin 10mg- pain

-paracetamol/ codiene-pain

-When and for how long have you taken prednisone or any other immunosuppressant in any form?

Nil

-When and for how long did you take Vitamin D supplements (including any vitamin-mineral supplements), omega-3 supplements and/or any kind of fish oil?


Took multi vitamin for about 6months on and off


-Were you taking Benicar when the sample was drawn?

No

-Were you taking an
ARB or or an ACE inhibitor when the sample was drawn?


No


My results:

25 D= 18.8 ng/ml

1,25D= 30 pg/ml

Cheers

Glenn Kealley, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome





 



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 Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 22:27

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Glenn,
Your 1,25-D is only slightly above average at  30pg/ml. The population average is 25-29 pg/ml and it is above-average 1,25-D levels (hypervitaminosis-D) that cause many troublesome symptoms. Since you report many troublesome symptoms, either the lab result is in error or your paracrine (tissue) level of 1,25-D is much higher than the measured serum level. This sometimes occurs when the inflammation is in tissues not well perfused by blood (for example nerves, joints, skin). If sample is not properly handled (left out too long) it can easily degrade and give a lower number. Some labs like to "BATCH" runs of certain tests. We essentially never see people with a diagnosis of CFS/FibroM who have such non-elevated number unless the sample was mis-handled. You have the option to retest (which isn't necessary unless Doc insists) or to do a therapeutic probe which is our recommendation.

Your 25-D of 18.8ng/ml is high enough to dampen immune response some.  Because 25-D is immunosuppressive, you need to avoid ALL sources of Vitamin D to get it down to a therapeutic level of 12ng/ml or less. Please see Foods To Avoid and The importance of avoiding vitamin D.

 "The 25-D seems to be the most critical factor as to whether the immune system is able to start working. Any level of 25-D above about 20ng/ml is likely to be acting as an immunosuppressant, with an action very similar to that of corticosteroids." Dr. Trevor Marshall, Ph.D.

  We suspect your 1,25-D lab may have been in error low. Your diagnosis and symptoms indicate Th1 inflammation. Please see Symptoms of Hypervitaminosis-D and you may recognize a few more. You will not get well and your health will continue to deteriorate if you don't treat the underlying bacterial cause of Th1 inflammation with the MP. Please see Is the MP an applicable treatment for my disease?

Most supplements and many medications must be avoided on the MP.

Our clinical study is temporarily closed to enrollment. As vacancies occur, we will admit subjects based on an application. To obtain an application forum, please send an email to marshallprotocol2@yahoo.com  with 'request MP application' in the subject line.
best, P.B.



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