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Posted: Mon Jun 9th, 2008 18:57 |
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Hi everyone,
I just read the most recent foods to avoid list and need to clarify if i am understanding the soy stuff. I have been avoiding all soy except occasisional use of one product that has soybean oil. I had also thought that soy sauce was to be avoided and am now wondering if I got that backwards.
So, we can use a little soy sauce, but no soybean oil, or is soybean oil ok too?
Also on one of the past lists, mustard and Hawthorne Berries were to be avoided. It is not on the recent list. Are those now detemined to be ok?
Thanks, Dawn
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Posted: Mon Jun 9th, 2008 21:21 |
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Hi Dawn,
This link Soy products are immunosuppressive and should be limited suggests limiting rather than eliminating, but I must admit I eliminated soy after reading it!
Mustard, like turmeric and curry powders, contains curcumin, which may have an effect on the immune system. It's okay in the tiny doses most people would use for occasional flavouring.
Hawthorn appears in the Medications to avoid list, as it's thought it might interfere with Benicar.
Julia 
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Posted: Thu Aug 28th, 2008 00:04 |
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Seems this is a thread on foods to avoid, and not a personal thread, so:
Julia, is curcumin in mustard, tumeric, and curry because the curcumin plant was a weed in the fields of these crops, or can we expect to see curcumin on the label of the various powders/prepared items that contain it?
Also, is there any info (maybe ask Dr. Marshall) or logic on the hydrolyzation of soy protein (hydrolyzed soy protein in many products) that might nullify the isoflavones?
Thanks, Cynthia
Last edited on Thu Aug 28th, 2008 01:20 by Cynthia Schnitz
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Posted: Thu Aug 28th, 2008 04:37 |
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if this is to be a general food Query thread
I think I heard on radio that kangaroo meat has an unusually high vit.D level considering it is very lean meat
have only eaten it twice, but was excellent in hands of competent chef; the second time I cooked myself and it seemed unpleasantly sweet (I have used no added sugar for decades) I saw a good recipe using red wine. Anything known? _Sallie
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Posted: Thu Aug 28th, 2008 04:37 |
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if this is to be a general food Query thread
I think I heard on radio that kangaroo meat has an unusually high vit.D level considering it is very lean meat
have only eaten it twice, but was excellent in hands of competent chef; the second time I cooked myself and it seemed unpleasantly sweet (I have used no added sugar for decades) I saw a good recipe using red wine. Anything known? _Sallie
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Posted: Thu Aug 28th, 2008 22:16 |
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Sallie,
I put "kangaroo meat" "vitamin D" into Google and couldn't find any connection at all. As you say, it would be surprising for such a lean meat to contain any measurable D.
Julia 
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 00:27 |
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| Julia, did you see my question above about curcumin in mustard and tumeric? Cynthia
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 08:19 |
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Cynthia,
It is preferable that you post all your questions in your own personal thread.
I know that curcumin is responsible for the yellow colour in turmeric.
As Julia said above - in tiny amounts it's ok, and I don't know anyone that eats large amounts of turmeric or mustard. From ym quick google search I strongly suggest curry powder does contain curcumin.. I guess it depends how hot you like your food  .
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 08:42 |
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Cynthia,
Curcumin is the component part of turmeric that gives it its yellow colour. So anything with turmeric on the label has curcumin. However, the quantity needed to do any harm would mean eating curry several times a week. Moderate use of spices and herbs in cooking is okay, but taking extra as a supplement is not.
Try googling 'hydrolyzed soy'. Some of the results would thoroughly put you off ever eating such a highly-processed product. 
Julia 
[must have been writing this at the same time as Natalie - oops, she's already answered!]
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 14:45 |
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Thank you Julia for the info on turmeric/mustard. I will have to reassess my mustard intake, as for me, mustard is not a minor condiment. Since I have almost no sense of smell, I compensate on the food sensory thing by eating gobs of mustard on my appropriate foods. I mean really a lot, something that would shock the average person. I usually get the comment, 'How about a little hot dog with your mustard.
On that subject, I have noted a change in my sense of smell since I have started eliminating vit. D from my diet (2 months). Instead of an infinitely short poof of smell about once a month, always too short to identify the source, I am having brief duration episodes of smell functionality, some days, multiple times per day, sometimes, a day or 2 with nothing.
Also, I have not had any Candida toxin effects lately from consuming yellow cheese, and I have tried to provoke it with no success. Not sure if the xylitol had any help in this, but I never got such a complete change with nystatin.
Don't bother to put this in my personal thread, as I will copy and paste this with up date myself on my next personal thread up date next week when I get my bone density test results.
Thanks, Cynthia
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Posted: Sun Aug 31st, 2008 02:44 |
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thank you for your response, Julia; I think it must have been 'polyunsaturated' at the back of my mind, not "vitamin D" [question here 28th Aug.]
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2005/09/05/1452955.htm
fats in kangaroo meat [2%] are polyunsaturated
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/08/08/2329210.htm
roo meat recommended for the environment
as you can see, I'm learning how to get some of the info that suits my situation without troubling you as much  . Also I perceive that internet manners would suggest I don't jump in with my own question before there is a response to the previous question, I expect that is essential training for maintaining a general thread for people like me who are not/ will probably not be on lifestyles site for whatever reason......... thx again Sallie
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Posted: Sun Aug 31st, 2008 14:10 |
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Sallie, thanks for explaining. Good that you're doing your own research! But do spend most of your time in the MP 'library' on MarshallProtocol.com. There's a vast amount to take in 
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