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Posted: Sun May 10th, 2009 18:35 |
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It would be interesting to know if, now that the Olmetec is in the Can. pharmaceutical list, if Yetvart can still legally compound olmesartan menoximil unless the script states a dosage not available, or not to have the additives that are in the Olmetec...?
I'm not trying to take away your loyality, but one advantage seeing his price for the Olmetec seems the same as everywhere, would be saving of the shipping fees and turn-around time delay. I'm living on greatly reduced savings, have had to make drastic adjustments to my life and living conditions, and I have to budget for every penny in order to be able to be sick wih Lyme disease - and I know of others worse off financially.
Olmetec should be covered by any insurance that covers the compounded Olmesartan, as it would have to have a DIN number.
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Posted: Mon May 11th, 2009 02:52 |
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Rico,
Are you talking $1.30 per 40 pills? Is this US or Canadian?
HANG IN THERE, WE WILL MAKE IT!!!BARNEY
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Posted: Mon May 11th, 2009 11:27 |
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Each 40mg tablet cost me about $1.30 CDN
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Posted: Mon May 11th, 2009 13:55 |
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Rico,
WOW...that is quite a price!! Does everyone in Canada have to pay that price?
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Posted: Mon May 11th, 2009 18:01 |
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Here in BC, 360/40 mg Olmetec cost $444. with dispensing fee, best price of all the major pharmacy chains = $1.23/tablet
I was told Costco charges $385. with dispensing fee = $1.07 (don't need to be a member to use Pharmacy).
Montreal Pharmacy will still compound the Olmesartan Menoximil in TR/non-TR as long as it doesn't have lactose in it - charges $388. with postal delivery = $1.08
Canadian Online Pharmacies will sell Olmesartan (Benicar generic) to a US address for USD $232.29 (CDN $268.26). However, you will need to have a US address (postal box, or mail forwarding company and your doc has to fax a brief letter accompanying the Rx addressed to "Health Canada: Special Access" stating what the med is for so customs doesn't hold it up. Letter and prescription has to be included with the parcel). Mail forwarding as low as $13./month + postage. Guessing about $318. with monthly fee and postage = $0.88
If patients lived close enough to a border to zip across and pick up, they might have a postal box (several could share one).
From top price $465. (Rico's) to best price $318. the spread is $147. (Just under $600./yr)
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Posted: Mon May 11th, 2009 23:09 |
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Mr Bill,
Thank you for that information.
I am sure you are sick of being sick....me too, but what is your diagnosis.
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Posted: Wed May 13th, 2009 00:51 |
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Re: Pharmacare coverage in BC
I received a message stating that while Olmesartan is approved at the Federal level, it is still under review in BC and will not be covered by our Pharmacare benefits at this time. 
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Posted: Wed May 13th, 2009 01:34 |
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Mr Bill,
That's too bad. Here in Ontario, we are now able to claim back from insurance companies. I just hope that they will cover the large amounts we are prescribed. I asked my doctor to write 'Take as directed", rather than saying we should take it every six hours. That may cause the insurance companies to sit up and question the coverage.
I have just submitted my first claim from Yetvart and am waiting to see if his compound with a DIN# will be covered. I sure hope it will, as I am spending a lot out of pocket each month to keep me in Benicar. Will let you know if I am re- imbursed or not. If not, I will have to order Olmetec from a local pharmacy.
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Posted: Wed May 13th, 2009 01:51 |
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I believe that persons here have been/will be covered if they have Blue Cross? Usually through work benefits, there is extended Health benefits, but no idea of how that comes into play?
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Posted: Wed May 13th, 2009 02:24 |
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For those of us who are in real financial distress, there are some other options that we might explore:
We should examine options and possibly form an information work group to see what can be done to get the meds through the Canadian on-line pharmacies at a much better price.
This one has a lot of IFs, but can be a great benefit. It is a US-based prescription charity whose qualifications are:
- IF seeing a US MD (DO, ND, NP)
- IF income under $22.000. single, or $31,000. couple (USD)
- IF no insurance coverage
- IF one can give a US mail address.
- IF one can get a Can. doc to order the monitoring tests for the US MPMD
This charity issues the scripts for three month terms, and charges $7.50 per month, per RX to cover the processing costs. However, there are a lot of glitches and hitches to get through the application process, and I can help with that. As previously posted, one can get a US address from a forwarding mail service, who will mail the scripts to your door.
All the MP meds (and numerous other ABXs) are in their "Lyme Disease Meds List", and if one's MPMD prescribes any other supportive prescription meds in the list, they will be covered as well.
It can take up to 6 weeks to get into their system, but once on track, Rxs come right away as long as your RXs are faxed in regularly, and any changes/additions are done immediately without having to get approved again.
One would have to get out the calculator and figure the Can. Olmetec/Olmesartan and ABX costs, less the cost of a US MPMD and the monthly mail forwarding fees to see if it would be of benefit for them.
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Posted: Tue May 19th, 2009 23:57 |
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Dear Bill,
I have Blue Cross in BC. Guess what!! They just sent me a cheque for my Benicar. I spent $750 and was reimbursed $676.41. I am thrilled. Now this is what I wrote in the letter that I included with my claim:
"There is also a receipt for Olmesartan from a pharmacy in Montreal. It is a 6 month supply. Up to now it wasn't available in the rest of Canada. I have Sarcoidosis, an inflammatory autoimmune disease. I am on a clinical trial and olmesartan is part of the treatment. I have sent an example to show you that SunLife paid for this when I was still working. Also, now that there is a DIN# (02318660 for 20 mg Olmetec and 02318679 40 mgs), I have been told that Blue Cross in Eastern Canada has been reimbursing their clients. All of us in BC are hoping that you will do the same."
I pay $90 per month as a single person for my extended health. I have Type 1 diabetes with an insulin pump, so I needed extended health to help with my supplies.
Hope this means that they are starting to listen to us. You can always say that you know someone that was just reimbursed.
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 01:12 |
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Oh sure, rub it in...
I'm very happy for you.
I don't have Blue Cross. Perhaps you can tell me if an old fart with a ton of health problems can get covered without having to have a full Medical and report from one's MD before getting coverage?
I have a bunch of problems which I'm sure are related to LD, but my GP is treating blood pressure, circulation problems, prostate issues, fatigue (and more) independently from my LLMD. Certainly, the MP meds could be stated as a need for some of my issues?
Just a minor clarification: until Olmetec was approved in Canada, the majority of us on the MP with LD in Canada, and at least here in BC, patients with sarc, crohn's, and some other Th1 diseases being treated by our LLMD have been getting their Olmesartan from Montreal (express mail delivery).
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 03:18 |
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Hi Bill,
Everyone can get Blue Cross as far as I know. I got a "conversion" package because I came from a great benefits package with my work. I think if you take lots of medical prescriptions it would be worth it. It picks up where FairPharmacare leaves off.
I have been a lab tech for 33 years, but I can't figure out what LD is! What is it, I keep guessing?
Did I say something incorrect about the Olmesartan in Canada? I think what I was trying to say was that now we can get it at any pharmacy, not just Montreal.
Anyway good luck!
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 04:53 |
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Thanks for the info. I'll definitely look into it.
Sorry. Guess I misread what you said about the Montreal source. It appeared to me as if you were confiding that you were getting the Olmasarten from a litlle known source in Montreal.
LD = Lyme disease
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 06:14 |
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Ah, Lyme disease!
Now I didn't even think of that.
Apology accepted.
When I had to find a new extended health provider I used Blue Cross. The fellow's name is Wally and he was very good explaining everything. I think I emailed them first. http://www.pac.bluecross.ca is the address. He sent me a package and then I phoned him.
FYI.
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 20:05 |
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Hi I am still working full time and have benefits through Manulife with the company I work with. Is there anyone who is able to get their work insurance company to pay for the Olmesartan from Montreal? I am starting Mp in Ocotober and trying to find out how all this works.. thanks kindly
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 21:18 |
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Looks like PlanetDrugsDirect is up to $85 per 100. I checked just now after seeing that my regular supplier has increased to $83 per 90 (they used to list by 100, I think, marketing ploy...). Looks like demand is increasing.
Does anyone have a supplier who will supply them more than 3 months at a time? That's all I can get from mine. At least that would provide a little price insurance for a little while.
http://www.northwestpharmacy.com still has great prices comparatively.
Claire
P.S. I'm looking at shipments to America.
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 21:28 |
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 22:58 |
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Hi Angela,
I get my beni from Yetvart covered by my spouses plan (I think it's manulife)
Best advice I can give is get the DIN # from Yetvart for whatever compund or part compound that he applies the DIN # to (lactose, etc) call your Insurer and ask if they cover that DIN. Normally if it is in the Canadian drug database - it is usually covered.
Hope this help
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Posted: Thu May 21st, 2009 00:29 |
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It does help thank you kindly John 
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