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roonie
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Posted: Mon May 4th, 2009 14:48 |
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| Is there contact info for yetvar..somewhere on here..or can someone provide the contact info pls. Thanks
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PoochyMama
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Yetvart Paylan Pharmacien
8897, Lajeunesse, Montreal H2M 1R8
514-382-5921
http://www.hyperidrose.com
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roonie
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Posted: Mon May 4th, 2009 18:20 |
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| thanks so much!
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thelymelight
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Posted: Mon May 4th, 2009 18:47 |
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Their toll free # is
for some reason this post keeps deleting the toll free number that I put up here.
Anyways is starts with 877 and the rest of the toll free # is almost the same as the phone number except that it is 282 and not 382...the last four digits are 5921....see if can get that toll free # to work for you..
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roonie
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mr bill
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Posted: Mon May 4th, 2009 20:17 |
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I’ve spoken directly with Northwest and Canadian Generic.
Northwest says their site is set up to filter out access from any Can IP addresses as they are in the business of selling to Americans. Canadian Direct says they too, are in the business of selling to Americans. They both quoted $77.43 for 120 – 40 mg Olmesartan, which is a generic for Benicar (the same), and Olmetec as well. ($232., but no idea about delivery fees?)
I don’t know if they even stock meds? From a couple of gems from the conversations, it sounds like they simply source the meds from various sources/countries where the price is much lower, and can sell it to Americans much cheaper than what they pay for the US products at their own pharmacies, while still making a nice profit.
The only way you can get meds from them is to have a US address for delivery. There are postal forwarding companies in the US who commonly forward non-addictive meds to Canada. One stated $13./month fee plus the mailing costs (don’t know if there is a one-off rate?).
I believe it was Can. Direct, or Can. Generic, who has a small pharmacy in Surrey, BC, who said that if they issued scripts to Canadians from their pharmacy, they would charge the same ratesc as other Can. Pharmacies.
I called all the pharmacies in the Abbotsford area, and Olmetec 40 mg x 360 tabs is $445. With dispensing fee ($1.24 each).
Some history:
I was involved in getting the compounded Olmesartan from Pharmacie Paylan, and had a lot of respect for Yetvart for a: doing it at all without knowing what the response or volume would be, b: selling it at a better price than Glebe (he wasn’t aware of their price at the time). http://www.marshallprotocol.com/view_topic.php?id=4320&forum_id=11&highlight=benicar+for+canadians Start around page 4.
Glebe later lowered their price when they discovored how many patients were buying from Paylan instead of the US, and posted as a patient in "Canada Benicar Info" topic, stating their price was $50. lower than Paylan’s for 360 tabs, how nice they were to deal with, and good service. There were some angry posts after finding out that it was an employee of Glebe’s who had posted the info – as if a patient. However, everyone in Can. started getting their scripts from Glebe, but after a few months, they announced that they would no longer sell the Olmesartan.
Subsequent to that however, Paylan’s price went from $275./360 to $375./360. I don’t know if I’ve lost respect for Yetvart, but can perhaps understand that he was taking risks and sold us at a better price right from the outset, and as soon as Glebe dropped their price, everyone jumped ship and bought from Glebe (I don’t know if anyone even bothered to contact him and ask if he could price-match?). I found out after ordering refills from my MPMD, then getting a call from Glebe for my CC info when they were about to ship. There’s a lot to be said about loyalty and communication…
Had we remained loyal (or at least, asked if he could price-match), we might still be able to get the Olmesartan compounded from Paylan at that cheaper price if our scripts stated that the Olmetec had to be Lactose and Cellulose-free…
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Posted: Mon May 4th, 2009 21:36 |
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I'm not familiar with the Health Plans of the other Provinces. However, here in BC, we pay the full amount for our meds, until reaching a 1st deductable (based on income), wherein the Health Plan pays a co-pay of 70%, and at the 2nd deductable level, it pays 100%.
The pharmacist I spoke to said she couldn't give me income figures relative to the deductables, and would have to call BC Medical to find that out.
I know that when it was more general, that the full pay amount was $600., but (I think) later increased to $1000. It's now relative to income, and I know that the Health Plan coverage is also charged based on income, as low as zero at the "poverty level" of income. I believe that at age 65, it is all free.
I asked about restrictions if the script was for more than what might be considered a recommended daily dose, and was told the doc can issue a script for up to 3 months, and got the impression that there would be no tracking involved if one returned a month later with a script for another 3 months.
Has anyone actually taken an Olmetec script to their pharmacy to be filled yet?
Has anyone in dire financial straits called their Prov. Welfare... oops, Human Resources Office to see if there is any assistance for Med. Plan/Prescriptions?
If you find out anything from your Provs., please post the info here.
There is a US charity that can help IF you are seeing a US MD, are under $22,000. for a single or $31,000. as a couple AND you can give a US address (see previous post about US mail forwarding).
There are complications, but if you qualify based on income, PM me for information and guidance.
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Posted: Tue May 5th, 2009 04:05 |
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Olmesartan and Mino are not covered by Ontario Drug Benefit.
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Posted: Tue May 5th, 2009 21:28 |
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Hi I am new to all this I have a question does Yetvart just then mail your meds to you via Canada post for provinces other then PQ or QC depending on who you are? And is that where most of you get it from?
I am buying my current meds from River Pharmacy in Winnipeg online and their site says they also have benicar and it would be 211.95 for 180 or 1.18 a pill. Not sure if I should switch and get it from Montreal though.
Angela
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Posted: Tue May 5th, 2009 23:15 |
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I don't see the benefit to change to Montreal now, as it's been stated that the cost is $1.25/pill from them.
If one doesn't have any prescription co-pay/payment coverage (private or provincial), the best thing to do would be to get a US mail forwarding company address and have our sripts, along with a brief description by our doc of what it is needed for (Customs will not stop any non-addictive scripts if it has this accompanying letter) faxed to the Canadian Script companies who sell to the US.
It's a brief letter addressed to Health Canada. Special Access. I think I have a sample somewhere in archives. If a copy of the Rx fax and the letter accompanies the package, it will not be held back by Customs.
Olmesartan (generic Benicar) $232. for 3 months at 4 daily + postal fees.
Info about US forwarding companies previously posted.
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PoochyMama
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Posted: Tue May 5th, 2009 23:24 |
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| Mr. Bill, Do you know if pharmacare in BC will be covering Olmesartan? I wonder if anyone is looking into this yet? I know it's new here and it would be great if pharmacare brought this new BC drug into it's list of pharmacare approved drugs. Who looks at this sort of issue.....new meds approved in BC that get added to the list?
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Posted: Wed May 6th, 2009 00:27 |
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Hmm I guess I will decide after I see DR Blaney again where to get it from. My work benefits will pay for it in full as long as there is a DIN number on it.
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Posted: Wed May 6th, 2009 01:06 |
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The BC pharmacare website indicates that olmetec is currently under review. I don't know what the review process is or how long it will be.
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Posted: Wed May 6th, 2009 04:13 |
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I haven't heard of anyone who has filled a prescription for it yet, but will send some emails to see if I can find out.
I don't know why it would still be under review? It's was under review about a year before the fall of '04 when I first saw Dr. B. Maybe the site hasn't upgraded?
It seems to be in the system, and available in all pharmacies across Canada (haven't heard from anyone in QC and the Maritimes yet). To be in the pahrmacies, it would have to have been approved at both the Fed and Prov levels by the Pharmaceutical Colleges.
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inuk2600
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Posted: Fri May 8th, 2009 09:11 |
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YES Olmetec is available now in Canada, I get it at Shopper's Drug Mart for $1.25/pill. The cheap Yetvart days are over.
On the bright side, your doctor might have Olmetec samples for ya.
Olmetec 40mg has DIN#: 02318679
It may be covered under certain plans and under certain conditions but you need to contact your provider regarding your individual circumstance.
In any case, save all your reciepts!
Generally, Canadians can NOT currently order Benicar or Olmecip or any kind of generic brand of Olmesartan without uncertainty and significant hassle to themselves or their doctor.
Regarding the Special Access Programme, please take a look at the criteria, and also the foms, red tape and scrutiny you would need to subject your gracious doctor to...
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/acces/drugs-drogues/index-eng.php
I honestly don't think the need for saving a few cents per pill qualifies for obtaining a drug through the SAP that is already approved and readily available on the market. (That's not what the SAP is for).
Onwards,
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Posted: Fri May 8th, 2009 11:51 |
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Canadians with Blue Cross coverage FYI
I have received coverage for the compounded Olmesartan from Yetvart Phamacie, under our drug plan with Blue Cross . I still need the compound as I need it lactose free so cannot take the Olmetec.
Blue Cross require the DIN # of Benicar on the prescription receipt. I called Yetvart and they gave it to me over the phone to put on my 2 receipts I had here, and they are going to put it on all my orders from now on.
I am so pleased about this, as you can imagine.
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Posted: Sat May 9th, 2009 00:05 |
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Saving a few cents inuk?
$232. for 3 months of 40 mg at 4 times daily for generic Benicar (called Olmesartan in US) from a Can Pharmacy, compared to $444. at the local pharmacy? That's saving real close to 50% (at 64 cents a pill), and a couple hundred $$. There are many registered Can Pharmacies who sell into the States only - some of which have been reported here. I've presonally spoken to 3 of them.
Significant hassel? An MPMD writes scripts for many patients, and in the case of mine, he had a simple statement letter on his letterhead in the computer (no form), and just changed the patient name and date, then faxed it with the Rx. If you'd read back you'd see that you do need a US address, and you can get set up on line with a US mail forwarding company for a small monthly fee (no addictive substances).
Unless you've actually ordered it from the US using the special access program, you shouldn't comment.
I go back to the days when we had to get Benicar from the States and was involved in getting it compounded in Montreal. All that our docs did in the form of a letter, was to address to Health Canada Special Access, and state the patient needed it for an a rare inflammatory disease. My doc didn't use the form that isn't that big a deal anyway, but just used the simple statement on his letterhead that was faxed with the script, and instructions to included it with the bill in the package.
I posted waaay back in MP site discussion about this after reading about it, talking to my doc who'd done it untold times, calling Can Customs, and receiveing the scripts with no problems. ( http://www.marshallprotocol.com/view_topic.php?id=4320&forum_id=11&highlight=benicar+for+canadians ) start about the middle of page 4 to see how the compounding in Montreal came together and ensuing discussion about other things like bringing Benicar in from the States. Do a search for postings about Canadians bringing Benicar from the states to learn more about how it's been done in the past.
Customs told me that, unless an addictive substance, they would not refuse to allow it, and whether by mail or by crossing the border, I was never asked to pay any duty (declared it when returning), nor did they ask if it was available in Canada. Both Can and US Customs have rules about incoming meds, but both have "discretionary powers". Neither wish to see themselves on the news refusing a med for a rare inflammatory disease for someone who can't afford the terrible cost in their own country
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Posted: Sat May 9th, 2009 00:57 |
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Hi Mr Bill, thanks for that info. I have a lot of respect for your efforts relating to obtaining olmesartan in Canada. I understand that a couple hundred dollars over time can make the difference for some people in terms of the financial feasibility of the MP. I might have been a bit presumptuous.
Keep up the good work!
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Posted: Sun May 10th, 2009 13:27 |
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I just purchased Olmetec from the Yetvart pharmacy. They sold it to me at $1.2917 per 40mg tablet (plus shipping).
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Posted: Sun May 10th, 2009 15:51 |
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Hi Folks,
I have always had my scripts filled by Yetvart and they are also a very helpful crew - so no real reason to change in the short term. It is an advantage to be able to have capsule sizes made to order instead of cutting or splitting. And the great benefit of having the cost covered by an insurance plan is huge.
There is a compounding pharmacist in London, which may be useful for potential emergency script changes (less than normal mg for certain meds)
I do have a question - has anyone actually used a canadian Costco to fill their scripts yet?
Thanks
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