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PatsyAnn
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Posted: Tue Feb 23rd, 2010 03:57 |
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Hi - I'm a complete newbie here. Having been suffering for 2+ years with increasing exhaustion, pain, inflammation, eyesight problems worsening rapidly, terrible ringing in ears. I found out about the MP through a "one last try" to find something I - or my doctors - had overlooked. I had been on extremely high physician prescribed vitamin D for just over 1 year - given due to my dx of RA, mild lupus, and sjogren's syndrome. Toward the end of the year, I began having severe yet inexplicable symptoms. These included fainting episodes and extremely high spikes of blood pressure (one ambulance run it was 255/150) accompanied by chest pressure, breathing problems. I lost 20 pounds over 2 months. Lost appetite. Vomiting when the pain became too bad. I also had begun to fall/lose balance. Brain fog became extreme. Greatly increased anxiety, depression. All of this was completely new. I had been a busy Therapist - then suddenly was unable to work at all.
After the specialists had checked everything they could think of - nothing could explain the strange symptoms. My first Internal Med doc told me he thought I had cancer. Cardiologist, Neurologist, G/I, Rheumatologist, Hematologist - nothing came up except for the autoimmune diseases, which are mild in intensity on the lab work. I was then seen as attention-seeking or hypochondriacal.
6 months ago an unrelated f/u visit with a dermatologist turned up Vitamin D as a possible culprit. The doc asked me if I was taking D. I said, well, yes, I had been taking it, but was pretty much off it b/c I had the feeling it was making me feel worse. There was a pause. Then the doc said, "I feel compelled to tell you something . . ." What followed was the first inkling I had that vitamin D was dangerous. I immediately asked for more info. He said he couldn't go into it all that day, but would send me 2 medical journal articles. 10 days later, the photocopies arrived in the mail. It was a good thing I sat down to read them, because I was stunned at the possible severity of my situation. I called the derm doc again to ask if he'd treat me. He said he couldn't b/c they (University) were putting him into a medical management role. He suggested that I find an Endocrinologist or Rheumatologist. The R doc laughed at me when I described the condition, holding out the articles which he declined to examine. The Endo doc was great, she understood that D can be dangerous (seco-steroid) but had "never heard" of the condition described in the articles. Turned out she was supervising my Internal Med doc - and through asking to be treated, it was explained to me that the system within which they work has no "protocol" for treatment of this unknown condition. So I lost both of them.
Then I tried looking for a Protocol. That's how I found you. I found Dr.Marshall's name on an article about the D effects, written by Waterhouse. I found more and more about Dr.Marshall and his protocol. Ended up calling the office in Thousand Oaks. The kind receptionist directed me to this website.
I don't know how to negotiate the site very well (can't even manage FaceBook!), but I'm trying. My current Rheumatologist (I took in all the materials from your website as suggested - hooray!) was willing to read what I had given me, but shook his head at the end. I immediately asked if he would at least test me for the 1,25D. He said yes, and gave me the required lab form. I've called the best Quest Lab in our area, who will process by the "gold standard." I've also called the docs some kind person there sent me a list (Thank you very much!!). So far, I've not found one who will work with me, but I'm still trying.
I'm still reading your materials - and would love some feedback from anyone who has time to reply! I'm interested right now in alternate ways to find medical oversight. Also, how do I get the NoIR glasses - under my insurance, I hope! I feel I really need the glasses, as my eyesight has already deteriorated dramatically. I had no idea what was causing it until I read about it on this site.
If I've gone on far too long, I apologize. Thank you in advance for any response you may give.
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Hi Patsy. and welcome. I too had a unexpected experience with D and found an article referencing Dr. Marshall on the internet by googling on "vitamin "D" and "problem". Isn't the internet a wonderful invention? If you continue to read these forums, you will see variations of your own story over and over again. You have definitely come to the right place. So, to get you started, here are a few links in case you haven't found them already.
This is where to start for a systematic learning of the MP:
Marshall Protocol Knowledge Base
Here is a great blog and just about everything on it is worth reading when you have time, but the video is especially worth watching:
http://bacteriality.com/2008/05/07/mpintro/
As you read, you can come back here and ask questions as needed. When you have your Vit. D results, go to this site to get some feed back on the results:
Help with Understanding D-metabolite tests
You can get a doctors list for your area, but I recommend that you make the area pretty large, as there are not a lot of doctors that are willing to work with you on the MP. Click on this link and follow the instructions in the first post. Be sure to call and make sure the doctors are not on the list by mistake or they have changed their mind about having patients following the MP.
Requesting a Doctor
Good luck with your doctor search, Cynthia
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PatsyAnn
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Posted: Wed Feb 24th, 2010 18:36 |
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Hi Cynthia -
Thanks so much for your reply! I admire the detail with which you document your progress. My Brain Fog has been so horrible that I have trouble negotiating a day, let alone document . . . but I'm beginning to see the great value to having a "baseline" to build from. Hopefully, I'll be able to follow your example.
I appreciate your encouragement and the links you recommended. Love your photo - that looks llike my Grandma's sun bonnet you're wearing - perfect. And the glasses must be great. I have light blue eyes and really need some good glasses. Do you happen to know where I can find out more about ordering them? Did you get your glasses (NoIR, I presume) through a physician and/or using your insurance benefits??
Thank you again for your help!
Patsy
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Posted: Wed Feb 24th, 2010 19:14 |
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Afraid that pioneer bonnet never did work out well. This one in navy was my most used hat, as you can swing the drape around to shade the side the sun is coming from.
http://www.amazon.com/Adams-Protective-Extreme-Condition-Hat/dp/B000FHZ18O/ref=pd_sbs_a_5
Of course my significant other hated it, and even the one in red was only marginally better in his opinion. He found me a hat that had a very floppy brim he likes that works almost as well, but you don't have the drape for low angle light. Get the darkest hat you can, as none of them have totally opaque material.
You will probably have to buy the NoIRs out of pocket, as I don't think the insurance companies will cover it.
http://www.mpkb.org/doku.php/home:lifestyle:light:noirs
I started with the basic fit-overs, but broke a hinge pretty early on, so replaced it with the Spectrashield. I decided to only buy the 10% version, as I had one of those inserts they give to you when you have your eyes dilated for taking photographs of the retina. I have asked for these at local optometrists, and, if they had them (maybe 1 out of 3), they gave them to me for free. You can use one or more of the inserts as needed outdoors. I like this as I can keep these in a pocket or purse, and they take up very little room, as opposed to carrying around extra sets of NoIRs. Indoors at home, I turned down the computer brightness, lowered the lighting with low level incandescents, and then didn't need any other eye protection there. In stores, with very bright fluorescent lights, the 10% worked perfectly. There should be a link to the NoIRs company on the above page. Since I used fit overs, I didn't need Prescription NoIRs. However, there are many people here that had much more light sensitivity than I did, so expect the unexpected.
Cynthia
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Toni L.
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Posted: Wed Feb 24th, 2010 20:04 |
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Started Benicar 10/23/09, Phase 1 11/24/09, 100mg mino Q48h, benicar Q6h
reducing D, covered up, zinc oxide, Noirs
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PatsyAnn
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Posted: Thu Mar 11th, 2010 19:34 |
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Hi - I'm so discouraged and frustrated!
I've just obtained from my Rheumatologist the Vitamin D test results. I logged them into your "calculator," and received the reply I had expected from the wealth of information on your site. I believe that the lab testing was flawed, since blood was drawn at Quest Labs 12:00 noon, after the lab tech (manager) was questioned about handling protocol. She shrugged off my cautions about handling as if she already knew it all. As I was leaving the lab after having blood drawn and then using the restroom, the lab tech was on the phone with her boyfriend (it seemed). As I passed by the front desk, she called out, "You're in luck - the collection guy will be here at 12:30!" I reminded her that it had to be frozen after clotting. She responded, "Oh, yeah. He has a freezer in his car." At that point, I was pretty sure I had wasted my time and money!
The physician who ordered the test is new to me. I've seen him twice. I presented him with the MP materials for physicians. He took some time during my visit to read it, which I thought was a hopeful sign. But then he refused to treat according to the MP, saying, "I'm more of a traditional Rheumatologist." He agreed to order the test, but when I called to ask about results I was told by the office tech, "Your Vitamin D levels are fine." He then refused - through his office tech - to give me the numbers. I insisted on my right to have the full report and was told I could pick up a copy. I drove to his office (half-hour each way), then saw that the D3 was measured at 28, D2 at <4. The D, 1,25 (OH)2 was 42. I truly don't feel that the results were accurate, based on my experience at Quest.
I've been trying since last August (09) to get help for my condition. After numerous visits to physicians since my 15 months of toxic level "treatment" with physician-prescribed D3, I was told "incidentally" by my Dermatologist that Vitamin D can be "dangerous." He was kind enough to copy and mail me 2 journal articles authored by Waterhouse. From that information ( which terrified me as I read it! ) I've spent 7 months trying to find someone to treat me. In the past 2 years I've been to 2 Internal Medicine doctors, 3 Rheumatologists, 1 renowned Endocrinologist, Both IM docs and 1 Rehumatologist along with the Endo doc have been directly asked to treat me with the MP. All have refused.
I've done a lot of reading from your site. It has been a Godsend. And from your site I've received the names of 2 doctors in my area (Sacramento CA) and 2 more 3 hours away. By phone, two of them refused to consider the MP and two have "Boutique" practices which I'm not wealthy enough to join! I'm currently out of options as well as the funds to keep making the rounds of physicians!
I'm a person who is well educated, a trained Marriage & Family Therapist. My husband is a Psychologist. We moved to Sacramento 2 years ago, right in the middle of my daily course of 5000iu Vitamin D3. After our move, I began having severe, inexplicable symptoms - fainting, balance problems, chest pain, extremely high BP spikes, "nodules" increasing in number on my lungs. As I intuitively began to connect my increased symptomology to the Vitamin D, I began taking it less frequently. Finally, last August, I stopped altogether and have been avoiding D in everything for the past 3 months. I'm 64 and had been working, very active, with my only medical conditions being "mild" RA, "mild" Lupus, and "moderate" Sjogren's syndrome. I have significant pain from an old neck injury, mostly controlled by T4 and heat patches along with caution. I also have longstanding depression & anxiety, well controlled by medication. My mother had severe Lupus. My daughter has had severe Hashimoto's, so there's a familial pattern of autoimmune disorders.
I've had to stop working (since our move in August 08). I'm absolutely exhausted all the time, becoming weaker, and feel constantly as if I have a bad case of flu - but without the head and chest congestion or vomiting. I have significant "brain fog" and am increasingly photosensitive. In other words, though I have some health challenges, I don't believe I'm a high risk patient for the MP.
Can you help me get connected with any of your MP patients/participants who might be able to direct me to someone who can help? Can anyone on your staff help to direct me to someone who can administer the MP for me? Can I enter the MP without oversight of a local physician? I feel so discouraged! Please advise me in any way you can. (By the way, I've ordered the NoIR glasses (2 pair) and am waiting - 2 weeks now - for delivery.) I also am taking measures to protect myself from the sun and from bright light.
Thank you for considering my cry for help!! Replied by PM--Carole
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Lupus,Rheumatoid Arthritis, Sjogren's Syndrome, suspected Sarcoidosis. Feb.2010 Labs: Vitamin D Hydroxy = 25 (both D3 and D2). D 1,25 = 42. Symptoms: exhaustion, severe joint pain, brain fog - increasing since Fall 2007.
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PatsyAnn
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| Hi - I continually have problems with login. I've tried everything, including reset of cookies. My only solution is to backpedal for a long enough time that I find a page where I"m "logged on as PatsyAnn." This takes so much time - then produces searched pages I've found that say "Not logged in." Any suggestions please?!
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PatsyAnn
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Posted: Mon Apr 12th, 2010 19:04 |
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Thank you for helping me with the login problem. I find it much easier now!
I've been very discouraged, as I received the third refusal (to supervise me on the MP) from a new MD this past week. Last Friday (despite horribly increasing brain fog) I forced myself to send the initial letter and MP descriptive documents to yet another physician, a D.O. who recently joined the practice where we used to live. I'm praying that this doc will agree. So far, refusals have come from Family Practice, Rheumatology, Gynecology docs. We're new in the area, so don't have many connections.
My Psychiatrist generously offered - after seeing my distress a few weeks ago - to start me on the MP. She wants me to sign disclaimers re treatment, which I'm happy to do . . . but she's not on our insurance plan and is not set up to do the kind of office visits (BP monitoring, etc.) I would presumably need. I've been wanting to find someone under our insurance plan - mostly b/c of the cost. I haven't been able to work for nearly 3 years now, and our finances are suffering. But I have a good BP cuff at home I can use. I'm not afraid of the MP treatment. I have been dealing with significant pain and increasing exhaustion for so long now . . . Can anyone advise me on this? What do you think I should do??
Currently I'm wearing my NoIRs everywhere, indoors (b/c there's too much light inside, including flourescent) and out. I even wear them in the shower b/c we have a large window there for some reason!  They seem to help tremendously. Without the NoIR's I have anxiety, agitation, more depression. I have a new SPF 50 sun hat and have found a Coppertone "sensitive skin" product with 50 SPF and 14.5% zinc oxide. Should I be wearing the sunscreen indoors too??
I have such high hopes for the MP. I am so grateful to Dr. Marshall for his brilliant scientific discoveries  and for his generous heart in sharing this breakthrough, curative therapy with the world! While I wait, I've been telling everyone I know to tell others about Dr.Marshall and about all of you who, through your generosity and hard work, are helping to heal thousands of people who, like me, had thought life as they knew it was at an end. Thank you, thank you!!
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Posted: Tue Apr 13th, 2010 05:39 |
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Hello PatsyAnn.
I'm sorry about the difficulties with finding a treating physician. 
You could think of all your efforts as building a great foundation of understanding on the science and the treatment that you will need as you work through the stages of recovery.
I would suggest that you again request a doctor's list for whatever area you are searching in this thread:
Requesting a Doctor (please click here) Last edited on Tue Apr 20th, 2010 06:37 by Joyful
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I want to remind everyone that I can provide DVD copies of Amy’s video that is on line at this link:
http://bacteriality.com/2008/05/07/mpintro/
"Video: An Overview of the Marshall Protocol" Author: Amy Proal
You can PM me at edj2001
Cost is 4$ each.
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Gene
are you able to provide DVD encodings on foreign formats, ie zone 4 ?
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patsy ann:
Have you asked your dermatologyst? It seems to me he/she has a more open mind.
you dont need a rheumathololyst to do the MP, just a DR who cares.
Luck.
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PatsyAnn
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Hi - Does anyone on "staff" know what I should tell my doctor about exactly what to prescribe for the first go-around? I can't seem to get my brain around how many Benicar/Minocycline I'll need per month.
Please help! I'm hoping to get started with her this week.
Thanks!
Patricia (PatsyAnn)
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Posted: Mon May 10th, 2010 22:55 |
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Hi PatsyAnn.
It might be hard to get your brain around the dosing because it is variable. Your symptoms dictate how much you need to take.
A good idea for the Benicar is to ask for a prescription that allows for increasing if needed. My last prescription stated "Benicar 40mg #900 -- q4-6h, max 180/mo, may refill for 1 year". This allowed me to decide how much to fill and the freedom to take more than 4/day if it is needed.
As for the minocycline, you can ask for 50 mg capsules (least expensive), or your doctor can prescribe compounded 25 mg capsules (more expensive ~$60/100). Mino is taken every other day starting no sooner than 2 weeks after starting the Benicar.
These links might help add to what I have written here: http://mpkb.org/home/mp/mpmeds
http://mpkb.org/home/mp/mpmeds/olmesartan
http://mpkb.org/home/mp/mpmeds/olmesartan/buying
http://mpkb.org/home/mp/mpmeds/minocycline
http://mpkb.org/home/mp/dividingmeds
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Posted: Mon May 10th, 2010 23:26 |
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Oh, my goodness! Thank you so very much for responding so quickly!! I've been turned down by 7 other doctors. This one said she is very worrried about the Benicar (out of her normal field of practice), but would supervise MP after she returns from her vacation (today) IF I have my husband and children sign Release of Liability letters. I've got those done, I'm praying she hasn't changed her mind, AND I want to be really well prepared.
Thank you again, Joyful!
P.S. I don't want to overstep, but do you just happen to know of a post by a woman who talked about her BP going down to super low numbers and yet she's learned to manage it??
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There are quite a few who have posted about how the BP numbers (high/low) are tied to the disease and the immunopathology. The problem for most doctors is they don't understand the mode of action for Benicar.
It's easy for someone to read the label and think, oh, it lowered BP. But the way it does it is by lowering inflammation and some other actions that are beneficial for healing.
I tell doctors now that I am using it "off-label" as a migraine-preventing anti-inflammatory. That seems to help them understand because they usually know how awful a migraine is and that a little lower BP is a small price to pay compared to having a migraine. Before the migraines, I would focus on the anti-inflammatory aspect as well.
It is often wise to think over "sound bites" that will put your doctor at ease as you go along. They don't really need to understand everything. They just need to know enough to feel comfortable with your plan and the next step.
Another good link:
http://mpkb.org/home/protocol/olmesartan/safety
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Posted: Tue May 11th, 2010 21:11 |
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Hi again Joyful - and thank you so much for the referred article. I don't believe I've seen the info in this form before. Someone(s) are working hard on simplifying the mpkb! I'm both impressed and grateful.
We've had an unhappy family issue arise regarding our youngest daughter (5 little ones under 8 years old) who now lives in Washington state. They'll be moving soon to Alabama (!) due to a new job offer for her hubby. It's one thing managing to traverse the West Coast to see each other - now this cross-country move is devastating for me to even imagine. Our budget is always tight too, which makes everything harder.
I have unused travel funds at Southwest Air, which would give me a chance to fly up to see them within the next couple of weeks. I may be started on Benicar by then - IF this doctor comes through for me . . . what would your advice be? I already am so exhausted and in pain. Will the first 2 weeks of Benicar likely help me feel better or worse? (I realize you can't make any guarantees!
Thanking you in advance for your help,
Patricia
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I think I'm remembering that about half feel better on Benicar (some much better) and about half feel worse. So you will have to go with your instincts for how to proceed.
Travel is pretty tough when you are unwell. Do you really think it is essential for you to take a trip now? Perhaps after you are stabilized on the Benicar would be safer for you?
Part of my own journey has been the disappointment that comes from realizing I an not yet well enough to travel after I first got sick in 2006. It is such a huge joy when some of my family can come to visit me. But even that has been hard to do because of the level of illness I have had.
I am believing that it is best for me to work on recovering now, so I can enjoy many good years in the future.
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Posted: Sun Jul 4th, 2010 23:53 |
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Dear Joyful, Thank you so much for having stayed in touch with me. I appreciate your work and dedication for the Th1 cure. I've been away from the site while waiting for the Benecar (Olmecip is what I finally received). Now, I'm anticipating the arrival of the Minocycline. I also have found a "new" doctor who has tentatively agreed to supervise me in the MP. He's a Family Practice doc, highly rrecommended, whose office is minutes from my home. I'm praying he'll make his final consent when I meet with him in 10 days or so.
My husband is home on vacation this week, and is urging me to go ahead and begin the Benicar. I have 2 questions, when you, or anyone who might know has time to respond:
1) Can you point me to a location on the site that specifically describes the first days/weeks of adjusting to the Benecar?
2) Years ago = around 30 - I was found to be allergic to Tetracycline (body rash). If I begin this whole process, then find I'm allergic to the antibiotic, will I have access to people online who can advise me according to the protocol? Are you that person?
3) When do I become an official member of Phase One?
Thank you for any response you can send. And, if you're celebrating = Happy Independence Day!
PatsyAnn (Patricia)
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Posted: Mon Jul 5th, 2010 07:58 |
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Hello and congratulations on getting things in place to start.
This may be the page you are looking for:
http://mpkb.org/home/mp/mpmeds/olmesartan/response
When you are ready to start, the instructions are here:
How to post progress reports
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