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Posted: Sat Apr 26th, 2008 17:49 |
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I was watching a game of football (soccer) the other night and after the game they interviewed a player who they had also interviewed before the game. Admittedly the player was in his late thirties but immediately after the game he appeared to have aged by about 10 years and looked as if he might fall asleep mid sentence. This reminded me of the ALS 'cluster' of professional footballers in Italy. Obviously there was lou gehrig and many other sporting stars and also military personell who seem to be at greater risk from ALS.
Does anyone think that there is a possibility that after strenuous excercise the immune system momentarily shuts down in some people and allows the cwd bacteria a window of opportunity as it were?
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Posted: Sat Apr 26th, 2008 18:27 |
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Scott,
There's a lot of very interesting stuff in the topic Are there any guidelines on exercise during the MP? Note especially the link Immune Response to Heavy Exertion. Maybe couch potatoes are healthier than the rest of us after all... 
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Posted: Sun Apr 27th, 2008 12:48 |
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Many thanks Julia
I continue to be impressed by the depth of information on the mp site. I feel I am in good hands!
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Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 15:27 |
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without wishing to act like a tight scotsman, I wondered if anyone had a copy of Lida Mattman's book; Stealth Pathogens and whether they would be willing to scan and post here the page about ALS, p243 I think? ?
I know it is a lot to ask, sorry 
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Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 15:55 |
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Scott,
Probably copyright might prevent that action. I would suggest you request your library order in the book through a library loan program. It might take a little while but that could do it all legal and you can read it.
You might also find someone is selling a "used" edition somewhere. I've ordered textbooks through this method... saves lotsa sheckles and time is same as purchasing any other book online.
Besides, you might find the book has other details of value to you in other chapters.
Best to you Scott--Janet
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Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 16:09 |
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| thanks Janet, I will try the library route as even the used copies on amazon are over $100!
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Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 16:21 |
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Scott,
If you've ever made a purchase on Amazon.co.uk, sign in and search for the book. Inside the book, search for 'Lou Gehrig'. Click on the link it gives you to P.243 and voila, you can read (but not copy) it.
If you've never purchased anything on Amazon, it won't let you do that - let me know and I'll write out the paragraph for you - it isn't much I'm afraid 
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Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 16:54 |
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| Thanks Julia, how clever! Mind you I am still hoping that all the lyme bacteria found in me was/is the cause of my symptoms and therefore the bacteria is not quite so aggressive.
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Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 18:47 |
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Here are those pages for You Scott.
http://85.128.111.42:800/kr%EAtki%20mattman%20ksi%B9%BFka/powycinane/
Here are some color photos.
http://85.128.111.42:800/kr%EAtki%20mattman%20ksi%B9%BFka/kolorki/
Tell me if the links work for U, cause this is my personal home server.
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Posted: Fri May 23rd, 2008 16:41 |
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many thanks wrotek, that is perfect.
Julia, you will know by my response that it was written before I actually read p243! I had to read the passage many times and I still am not sure I understand it properly. I think it means that she postulates that ALS is caused, in some cases, by a strain of borrellia but not the same strain as that which causes lyme disease. What was interesting was that she talks about an ALS spirochete causing the illness as opposed to the biofilm or pathogen soup hypothesis.
I finally got my 1, 25d result, only took 10 weeks! it was 111 picomoles/litre (46.25 pg/ml) and my 25D was 14.8ng/ml. Ratio 3.125
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Posted: Fri May 23rd, 2008 18:35 |
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Scott,
Please be sure to list your D test results in the section for that on this site. Here's the instructions and link:
Help with Understanding D-metabolite tests
Moderators will help you understand the values returned from lab tests in this forum.
Lida Mattman's work is incredibly important in her early identification of potential co-factors and co-infections. Her work extending the in vitro Petri dish is legend.
Building on that, much in the way of research by others has evolved, describing metagenomic communities of pathogens in vivo and cross-specialty elucidation that increasingly includes in silico data for both human and bacterial genomes.
You might appreciate the cycle diagram on Meg Mangin's Karolinska DMM2008 poster handout. (Enlarge by drawing a box around the illustration, using acrobat's magnifying tool.)
To the right of the little sick figure, you will see co-infections and how they relate to the bigger Th1 Chronic Inflammatory Disease process.
Best to you Scott--Janet
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Posted: Sat May 24th, 2008 18:33 |
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thanks Janet for your help and support.
I could not see where to post the d results on this site but have done on the marshall protocol site, let me know if I must post on this site also.
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Posted: Sun May 25th, 2008 00:25 |
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Scott,
If you are already accepted into the study site, then posting there is probably best.
General questions can be asked here on this thread as long as you would like.
Best to you Scott--Janet
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Posted: Fri Sep 12th, 2008 18:20 |
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a friend's dad has non hodgkins lymphoma and is not responding to treatment (chemo and radiotherapy), I was wondering if anyone could suggest any other treatment?
thanks in advance!
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Posted: Fri Sep 12th, 2008 21:39 |
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ScottK,
Good to see your question. Thank you.
Here are some info sets I would have them look at for insights:
1. Amy Proal's http://www.Bacteriality.com site is a good place to start. Her recent presentation in vimeo (movie) format. Here is Amy's description and the link:
"In the following video, I explain the science that forms the backbone of the Marshall Protocol in simple terms. I discuss the bacteria implicated in causing chronic inflammatory disease, and explain how these pathogens affect the immune system. I also describe the basics of the treatment itself, providing information that any patient who plans to start the Marshall Protocol, or any doctor planning to put a patient on the MP, should understand. My narration is accompanied by slides with pictures and images of the pathogens and molecules I discuss. The video is 89 minutes."
http://bacteriality.com/2008/05/07/mpintro/
They might also find it interesting to read Gene's story at Bacteriality.com, too. 2. Is the Marshall Protocol an Applicable Treatment for my Disease?
3. CANCER and Th1 inflammation
If applicable: to discuss with Dr re sending tissue to pathology for diagnosis: you may wish to print this Information for your Dr.
4. D-metabolites tests
Which diagnostic tests do I need?
What is a therapeutic probe?
Then I would highly encourage them to open a their own thread on this site if they are interested. Even if you present the truth to people, some will not be ready to take action for a number of reasons. But one thing is certain, if they are not ready to take action for themselves, then they cannot do the MP. (It requires someone's 100% involvement, as you already know.)
Best to you ScottK--Janet
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Posted: Fri Sep 12th, 2008 21:40 |
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Scott,
In addition to Janet's links, you might like to look at "Pleomorphic Bacteria as a Cause of Hodgkin's Disease (Hodgkin's lymphoma): A Review of the Literature." by Dr. Alan Cantwell, M.D.
(it mentions non-Hodgkin's as well)
But a warning: Dr Marshall replied to someone else's query about cancer in general, Although Th1 inflammation causes the cancer it is not possible to resolve that inflammation quickly. With the MP, it takes several years to get down the bacterial load to a point where the body's immune system is working properly again. It would need to be a quite benign cancer to not proliferate significantly in that time.
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Posted: Sat Sep 13th, 2008 16:52 |
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Thanks Janet and Julia, I will pass this on.
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