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stoneyhill
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Posted: Wed Jan 16th, 2008 17:30 |
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I hope this is the right forum. I am registered and have a test results string over at mp.com, but they act like they are real busy over there.
I am getting ready to start the MP. I ordered my NOIRs and my appointment with my doc is 1-23. He is a VA doc and tells me that he will write my Rxs but I will have to pay myself since he is restricted on what he can order for hypertension, which I have and that the VA can't quite figure out what is a Th1 inflammation. That is another string.
I am currently on Simvastatin, Lisinopril and Metoprolol. In my test string on MP.com it was suggested that I should moniter my BP to make sure that it doesn't go haywire on me.
I take my BP every morning as it is so that shouldn't be a problem.
My question is.......
Should I discontinue the Lisinopril (Ace Inhibitor) and the Metoprolol on day -1 and start the Benicar on day zero or should I, like, phase out of them before I start or what?
I am also on Aspirin therapy (I hadda heart attack) and Omeprazole (for the GERD).
I figure I will stop the aspirin and simvastatin, (since they are contraindicated) and will stop the Omeprazole initially just to see if my acid reflux comes back. I can put up with a few days of heart burn to see if I get cured of it on the MP.
Does anybody know an inexpensive source for the benicar? I read the string about self payers on MP.com and it looks like the string is sorta old. They say the loonie (Canadian Dollar) is now worth more than the buck (USD).
Please advise if I am posting at the wrong place.
Thanks.
P.S. I guess I will find out if my sig line and avatar transfers over from the MP.com 
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Sarcoidosis/lungs, HTN, CAD, arthritis, pre-diabetes, cataract, 125D48, 25D31, MP 2-29-08, Mino (25) 03-10-08,mino (50) 3-22-08, Aspirin therapy, lisinopril, metaprolol, omeprazole, NoIRs, lite exp r/t to work, cover up, 1-08 25D33
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Julia
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Posted: Wed Jan 16th, 2008 22:44 |
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Hi Stoneyhill,
Welcome to our MP questions board. We really appreciate your understanding that the MP.com site is very busy, and you're in the right place to ask general pre-MP questions. I hope someone from US can help with where to get Benicar - I've added that question to your topic subtitle so that others will see it.
But your questions about drugs really do need a medical person to advise. I'll ask someone to look at your post.
No, your avatar and signature line don't automatically come over here! But you can 'copy' and 'paste' them easily enough in your 'profile'.
Julia 
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stoneyhill
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Posted: Mon Jan 21st, 2008 15:09 |
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I am kinda sorta confused.
Zorcor; Is contraindicated. I will stop.
Aspirin; I will continue subject to doctor's instructions.
Omeprazole; I will experiment with until/if/and/or my GERD gets resolved.
Metoprolol; This morning before rising my BP was 146/89 Pulse 65. My ten day moving average rising BP is 133/79 (as currently medicated).
I have Coronary Artery Disease (CAD) and arrhythmia (PVC) and I highly suspect that I have cardiac involvement (42 years with the sarc). It is therefore sensible for me to continue with the Metoprolol (or ramp down as conditions and the doctor permit).
Lisinopril; Confuses me. I thought I read somewhere that I should not do Lisinopril (ACE Inhibitor).
My doctor will prescribe as I suggest, since he claims not to have time to do research and I am a big boy.
I suspect that when he sees my bloodwork (glucose, A1c, cholesterol, trigs and like that) and my BP come into normalcy he will perhaps express more interest in the MP. For now, I am happy that he will write the scripts.
Benicar; Finally, since I suspect cardiac involvement, should I ask him to prescribe it for 40mg every 4 hours? I suspect I will be years getting cured. Does this stuff keep?
I go see the doctor tomorrow.
Thanks.
ETA.......I have been searching......I came across this.
http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum32/1092.html
When a second blood pressure medication is needed (besides Benicar) we recommend a beta blocker or a calcium channel blocker or Lasix (furosemide). ACE inhibitors are not contraindicated but we are less sure of their effect on the immune system. I guess I will endeavor to eliminate that one first as BP drops.
I still would like an opinion on the dosages of benicar.
Last edited on Mon Jan 21st, 2008 16:42 by stoneyhill
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Sarcoidosis/lungs, HTN, CAD, arthritis, pre-diabetes, cataract, 125D48, 25D31, MP 2-29-08, Mino (25) 03-10-08,mino (50) 3-22-08, Aspirin therapy, lisinopril, metaprolol, omeprazole, NoIRs, lite exp r/t to work, cover up, 1-08 25D33
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eClaire
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Posted: Mon Jan 21st, 2008 18:29 |
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Re Benicar Dosing:
I am not a health professional, but I am sure one of them on the site will correct me if I give you incorrect advice.
Earlier it was mentioned about having a strategy of which BP med (other than Benicar) to decrease as your BP falls (if it falls) and it was also mentioned that Benicar's hypotensive affect is very weak.
Essentially, when you take 40mg of Benicar per day, you have most probably reached its greatest hypotensive affect. From that point on, additional amounts of Benicar typically does not increase the hypotensive affect. (This link will provide you with lots of information about Benicar: http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum2/11.html.)
While 40mg q8h may be all that is needed to establish a blockade (see link above for explanation), it is generally recommended that you start with q6h per day, as that provides you with a little wiggle room if you are late in taking a dose. Also, some people need to take Benicar q6h to get the full blockade. At times on the protocol, you may adjust your Benicar upward to aid in quelling intolerable immunopathology or to make yourself more comfortable. Once you begin posting on your own progress report, the moderators may provide some suggestions along this line.
I hope this is what you are asking and I've answered your question. Claire
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Posted: Mon Jan 21st, 2008 18:50 |
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Thank you for your reply.
I may have failed to get teh question across properly. My bad.
I read that no matter how much benicar I eat my BP still only goes down 12/7. I was concerned about the potential need to beef up the benicar because of my cardiac involvement.
If doc prescribes the benicar to me at every six hours and because of my suspected cardiac involvement I gotta go to every 4 hours that is a 50% increase. That turns a 3 month prescription on a six hour cycle into a two month prescription on a 4 hour cycle.
That means if I order my next three month renewal with a month to go I will be trying to renew a 3 month prescription after only 1 month. I don't want to get in trouble with the law.
I guess maybe I am over thinking this. If I end up on every 4 hours all I gotta do is call doc and have him write me another prescription for 40 mg every 12 hours.
Same effect.  4/24 + 2/24 = 6/24. 6/24 = 4 hours.
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eClaire
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Posted: Tue Jan 22nd, 2008 01:52 |
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You could always have the doc write the prescription for q4h or "take as directed," but giving you whatever count will allow you to take q4h plus for the months between appointments, including a grace period of about three to six weeks (in case you end up ordering your Benicar online). (For example, my doctor writes me a prescription for 600 count, which allows me to get a discount when purchasing, and I am to take it as directed.) If you use that or more for a while and then drop back, you're not having to disturb the doc just to write you prescriptions. Hope this response gets at it a little more. Claire
See Benicar dosage and schedules
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CFS/FMS/MCS/COPD/Hypermobility/IBS/GERD/osteop/tinnitus/neurop | Beg: 1,25D-48 25D-26.1 SED 1 Alk Phos 157 chol 299| diet mid-Oct| NoIRs| 12.3.06 Beni; Ph1 Mino 12.26.06,Restart 3.19.07 | ModPh2 6.22.07 M+C | 06.22.07 25D-13
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