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gondwana
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Posted: Sat Apr 4th, 2009 17:16 |
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Hi Everyone,
My issue with deciding whether to take the "official" Benicar, or the Indian/Chinese knock-off Benicar, is based on all the stuff that has been in the news for the past many, many months:
Products made in Japan or USA have a degree of reliability that is built into the cost: I guess you really DO have to pay more to have the peace of mind to know that what you are putting into your body *really* is Benicar, and not Benicar with melamine, or Benicar with only-the-Lord-knows what else they might add to this all-important pill we all MUST take!
Quite frankly, after reading and hearing all the stuff that has been in the news about pervasive melamine and salmonella (and whatever else awaits us) contamination in products manufactured in China and India --- all due to corrupt or inefficient government regulation or inspection --- how can we possibly trust any products from those countries???
Most of us are already gravely sick, and can ill-afford putting yet another burden on our bodies to deal with on top of IP (e.g. kidney damage from melamine contamination or something else). If at all possible, we should be focusing on Benicar made in places with 100% assurance of quality control. It is appalling that people with limited resources are being forced to consume the cheaper, potentially adulterated, and thus dangerous, stuff. For me, I'm gritting my teeth and my wallet, and buying from Costco (which is still almost $200 cheaper than Walgreens).
David
Last edited on Sat Apr 4th, 2009 17:18 by gondwana
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mebauer
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Posted: Tue Apr 7th, 2009 19:05 |
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So, I ordered my medication from Northwest Pharmacy...I was told by them that it would be Sankyo Benicar however it came from Pfizer...it looks like the medication I've had all along, but lately while taking it I seem to be having some issues with being more dizzy/lightheaded and that had stopped after 3 months on the mp...does anyone know if any of the canadian companies actually can get the Sankyo Benicar???
Thanks...Melissa
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Arizona Patty
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Posted: Wed Apr 8th, 2009 00:27 |
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Melissa,
Bluesky Pharm do have the C-15 Sankyo. I did order from blueskydrugs.com and also from plantetdrugsdirect.com with both of them assuring me that it is infact Brand name Sankyo. We will see, it is in the mail.
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jshrewsbury
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Posted: Thu Apr 9th, 2009 08:01 |
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Does Costco ship internationaly?
Jane
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gondwana
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Posted: Thu Apr 9th, 2009 09:52 |
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Jane,
Costco is the USA version of what in NZ is called "The Warehouse" --- totally different companies, but similar business concept. The USA version includes a "Chemists'" department --- and believe it or not, so does The Warehouse (see below) albeit in somewhat location-restricted fashion.
I looked on the Costco website, and it appears that medications " . . . can be delivered anywhere in the United States where Costco is licensed."
There are posted phone numbers (800 numbers in USA, but in NZ Telecom will connect you with USA 800 numbers, albeit at the non-free, pricey international toll rate), and you can try to call them to see if you can talk them into bending their rules. But keep in mind that Costco is a membership organization (like a shopping golf club, if you will), unlike The Warehouse, which is open to anyone's patronage.
Perhaps you can go to The Warehouse's pharmacy page
The Warehouse
and contact one of their locations which offer pharmacy locations. Not sure where in NZ you are situated, but their chemist locations are not well distributed (for instance, nothing in the BOP, Wellington, or Napier areas, in the NI, and nothing in ChCh, but strangely they have two in northern S.I. (Nelson and Blenheim). In any case, you may be able to ring the nearest one, or perhaps email 'em, and see what they offer you.
Please post the outcome of your enquiry as I am most curious! Best of luck.
David
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Kristin33
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Posted: Thu Apr 9th, 2009 17:26 |
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| Has anyone expereince any difference in taking the generic verses the brand name Benicar? Does it make a difference? Has anyone had experience in using both and noticed any kind of difference?
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pga terry
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Posted: Fri Apr 10th, 2009 04:27 |
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I sent this reply to roonie on March 18, 09
"....I just ordered my second Rx of Olmecip-40 from canadageneric.com. 90 pills/40mg - $49.00.
I used my first Rx and felt no difference than taking the name brand Benicar. In fact I took both Benicar and Olmecip the same day. My Olmecip has 10 pills per sheet in individual pill-blister pack. The manufacturer is listed as CIPLA, LTD. INDIA. Best price for out of pocket that I've found. Hope this helps."
Terry
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Barney
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Posted: Fri Apr 10th, 2009 05:18 |
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Kristin,
Beeletcher and Jeannine have had a problem with one of the fillers in one of the generic. You could pm them and talk about what they feel.
Benicar (US) is coated to keep gastro problems at bay, there is latose as a filler and some people have problems with the latose.
Generic Benicar is not coated, so you would need to take with food. One of the generic's has lactose as a filler and the other one has a different fill, which I am not sure what it is, but I will check into it.
If you are lucky enough to have insurance that will pay for at least 4 Benicar a day, go for it, if not then use generic.
HANG IN THERE, WE WILL MAKE IT!!!!BARNEY
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Kristin33
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Posted: Fri Apr 10th, 2009 19:44 |
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What website do you order your benicar from?
Thanks
Kristin
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Barney
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Posted: Fri Apr 10th, 2009 23:39 |
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Kristin,
My husband is retired military, so I have Tricare for Life, which is a combo with Medicare....so I get my Benicar from the Kmart Pharmacy.
There are several places to order online if you have to pay for your own:
http://www.inhousepharmacy.com, no prescription required, a little over a $1.00 per pill.
http://www.NorthWestPharmacy.com, needs script....about 70 cents per pill
Hope this helps. Make sure it is pure Olmeic (NO HCT in it)
HANG IN THERE, WE WILL MAKE IT!!!BARNEY
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jshrewsbury
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Posted: Sat Apr 11th, 2009 07:27 |
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| One of the side affects of benicar is loss of salt ,U feel dizzy or collapse if you get to low.So be careful ,and add a sprinkle.
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jshrewsbury
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Posted: Sat Apr 11th, 2009 07:34 |
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What was the price with blueskypharm and planetdrugsdirect?
These are to that I havent ordered from yet.
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Arizona Patty
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Posted: Thu Apr 16th, 2009 19:56 |
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Thelymelight,
Sorry, I didn't know I had a message. About the right kind of Benicar. I started with Daiichi Sankyo brand name Benicar 40 mg. Then when generic came from Canada my herxing was severe and liver labs were elevated. I stumbled across the "right kind of Benicar" on the curemyth1 site. When I was so bad one evening I took 20mg of the original Daiichi Sanyko brand (I had left of origianal prescription) and got relief from my IP immediately which I hadn't gotten relief with the generic for two weeks. So then I understood there was a difference and that is why they suggest using the right kind of Benicar.
Hope that helps, it isn't easy communicating sometimes.
Arizona Patty
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Arizona Patty
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Posted: Thu Apr 16th, 2009 20:10 |
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Dr. Marshall,
RE: Benicar
I just recieved my order from Planetdrugsdirect and was promised and guaranteed that I would recieve "Daiichi-Sankyo" Benicar. When it arrrived today it came as "Olmetec 40mg. (Olmesartan Medoxomil.) A little bate and switch. It is by Schering-Plough ltd out of Australia. Should I be concerned?? All I know is that the Daiichi-Sankyo works with this body.
Thank you,
Arizona Patty
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Posted: Thu Apr 16th, 2009 22:22 |
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| I use the Olmesartan (Olmetec) 40 mg from planet drugs direct. When I have an IP, I can take it when it starts and usually get relief within 15 minutes. Bear in mind as well that some of you may be having Herx problems because you are not taking enough of the Benicar. Remember you can take extra far above the 1 pill 4 times a day. You also may want to consider a modified program. When I started the Mino at 100 mg, every other day, I had severe Herx. I had to switch to 50 mg every day for a couple of weeks and then I was able to do 100 mg every other day just fine.
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Kristin33
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Posted: Fri Apr 17th, 2009 18:10 |
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Is "generic alternative benicar" the correct benicar for the MP? This what is being shipped to me.
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Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2009 00:34 |
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Generic is ok, those as mentioned before, though as Barney mentioned, the fillers in some generics have been a problem for a couple of folks.
What you do need to avoid is any formulation with 'HCT' on the label.
I'm not a pharmacist, so I don't know if 'generic alternative' means an alternative to olmesartan, or an alternative to Sankyo Benicar brand olmesartan. You'd have to ask the vendor.
Chris
olmesartan medoxomil is the medication.
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pga terry
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Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2009 02:36 |
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| Kristin....what company or web site did you order from?
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eClaire
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Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2009 06:25 |
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I have had no problems with the generic in tablet form. I order from https://www.jandrugs.com. Great prices and they'll take a credit card over the phone for generic, which some companies won't.
Hope this helps, Claire
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Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2009 16:48 |
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Terry, here is the site I order from. They are all in Canada, and oddly enough, won't ship to Canadians. Anyway, my supplier seems to be a better price yet, but all these companies beat the US Benicar price by miles. My site takes about 3 weeks to ship, give or take a little. Cynthia
http://www.northwestpharmacy.com/ProductSearch.aspx?mid=a7281602fa594cadaf15c72142726238&s=benicar&DrugID=70249
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