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 Posted: Wed Oct 29th, 2008 13:21

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Hello everyone,

Excuse my ignorance as I'm new to this study. To cut it short, I've been experiencing MS like symptoms for over 7 years now with each year new symptoms appearing or worsening. I have seen myriad of doctors and done myriad of tests (MRI, blood tests, colonscopy,  EMG, ECG, ...). The only abnormality that appeared so far is that the doctor that ran the EMG test detected the nerves conduction velocity are slightly weaker then normal (I've been feeling weaknesss and tingling in my hands for 3 years now).
Also, recently I've been experiencing cardiac problems, I can no longer tolerate exercise (I used to run 30 minutes on my tredmill last year), now a 5 minutes workout put me into diziness and cardiac miscomfort for literaly 2-3 hours. And also, my heart rate is always around 95 or 100 beats per second (even at rest or asleep). Although an ECG revealed nothing, I'm pretty sure that this recent cardiac problem is linked to my chronic condition.
I hope someone can enlight me about my case and I wish all of this can be reversible especially the cardiac problem (I'm gaining weight since I stopped exercising).

Your help ppl is highly appreciated.

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 Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 00:10

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Hi Raven,

You sound like a classic case of Th1, but the way to know for sure is to get your D-Metabolites tested.  Th1 diseases are systemic, so you could well be right that the cardiac problems are related.  See HEART DISEASE.

Here's some introductory reading about the Marshall Protocol, in case you haven't found it yet:

"What is the Marshall Protocol?"

Simple Explanations

Success Stories

Bacteriality - a readable blog-style website by one of our members, with science-made-easy articles, an introductory 90-minute video, and interviews with recovering patients - an excellent introduction to the MP.

Please ask any further questions here at your own personal thread :)

Julia 



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 Posted: Mon Nov 3rd, 2008 06:10

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After reading about the MP and the success stories, I'm having hope in this treatment. However, in my country "Olmesartan" or "Benicar" are not sold, also doctors here are skeptics regarding the MP. What steps should I take to get "Olmesartan", ordering online seems to require prescription though.

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I also read that "olmesartan" is an "angiotensin receptor blocker" more commonly known as an ARB and belonging to the family of "sartans". Is it possible to use another ARB (other then olmesartan) in the MP?

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 Posted: Mon Nov 3rd, 2008 13:07

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Please see the FAQ Benicar is not available in my country. Is there an acceptable substitute?

Suggestions To Get Your Doctor On Board With the MP

You could post in the thread REQUEST FOR DOCTORS LIST to see if we have any suggestions for your country.

Where To Purchase Benicar

You must have a doctor for the MP.  Not only do you need the prescriptions, but there is no public access to Phases 2 & 3 of the MP, for safety reasons.  Your doctor (or a nurse representative) must join the private Health Professionals' Forum in order to access the full MP.



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 Posted: Mon Dec 1st, 2008 09:49

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I have ordered the vitD tests, however one of those tests could not be done in my country so my only alternative is to send my blood extract to a foreign lab and wait at least a month for the result (not to mention the high probability that the results may come erroneous).
So, I'm considering trying out the therapeutic probe.
After reading the information about the therapeutic probe in this link

http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum32/1419.html

I understood that one can try the MP and check his body reaction to it.
However, I'm concerned that my condition (MS-like symptoms with no identifiable source till now) treated by MP may trigger a more serious illness than i currently have and I'm not talking here about herx (I can tolerate herx if on the long term I will get cured). But I'm deeply concerned that an irreversible auto-immune response will be sparked and i will become more paralysed than now.

Plz understand my concerns and Thx in advance for ur advice ppl.

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 Posted: Mon Dec 1st, 2008 14:10

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Hi raven:D

(I can tolerate herx if on the long term I will get cured). But I'm deeply concerned that an irreversible auto-immune response will be sparked and i will become more paralysed than now.
this is also of big concern to me, I asked about it in my question-topic, to which Natalie replied:
Tough for some, yes, and easier for others. To my knowledge, considering the MP is a curative treatment, it would not further damage nerve tissue, in fact I imagine there's a good chance it would reverse it. Rest assured I will be quickly corrected if wrong.If you have not yet seen it - MS MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS and Th1 inflammation.

i have the same problem as you do with my hands, and i'd do anything to get them back to normal, as it limits all my hobbies like drawing, guitar, and such..:( To my understanding the MP pathogenesis predicts that "irreversable damage" isnt irreversable. I certainly hope so:D

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 Posted: Mon Dec 1st, 2008 15:19

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Raven,

I understand that you are genuinely concerned about this. However, the fact is that there is no reason at all to think that the MP will create a disease that was not there before. The science indicates that it will not happen, and it has not happened to anyone in practice. The healing process may be painful at times, but healing is what it is.



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