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tim
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 Posted: Mon Oct 27th, 2008 22:29

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Please forgive me if this question has already been asked and answered, and give me a link to the answer. I don't follow the message boards as closely as I would like.

Recently, a prominent CFS physician/researcher has been telling his patients that high doses of Vitamin D have been shown to be more effective at preventing the flu than the flu vaccine. Of course, Dr. Marshall would say that Vitamin D is merely immunosuppressive, but I find it hard to accept that the D would suppress the body's response to the virus while allowing the virus itself to run rampant, which would clearly be quickly fatal. Therefore, I am eager to read Dr. Marshall's explanation of this finding. If he is not already familiar with it, I can probably dig up a journal citation.

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 Posted: Mon Oct 27th, 2008 22:54

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Tim,

The purpose of this board is to help those who are interested in pursuing the Marshall Protocol with their own doctor. We really don't have the time to argue each point, but can certainly give you some further information to consider.

Your question about the flu and the immune system is good. However, read the following article, and you'll see how the body and viruses interact in ways that aren't obvious.
Scientists reveal how world's worst flu killed victims | Science ...http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/jan/18/birdflu.medicineandhealth


Here's some reading for you regadring Vit D, the immune system, and how the MP works. I hope it answers your questions.

A Brief Overview of Innate and Adaptive Immunity in Relation to the Marshall Protocol

I don’t understand the science behind the Marshall Protocol. Where can I get answers?

Top 14 misconceptions about the MP: addressed and explained

What is the Marshall Protocol?

About the Marshall Protocol

Why the Marshall Protocol makes sense

Simple Explanations

The History of the Marshall Protocol

Phase One Guideline

Papers for Physicians

Vitamin D-Basic Information


Simple Explanations

Vitamin D Tutorial

The Importance of Reducing 25-D


You do not need to ingest Vitamin D to be healthy

Marshall TG: VDR Nuclear Receptor Competence is the Key to Recovery from Chronic Inflammatory and Autoimmune Disease. Abstract presentation, Days of molecular medicine, 2006.
Copy available from URL http://autoimmunityresearch.org/karolinska-handout.pdf


In the new 2006 medical textbook titled Vitamin D: New Research
, published by Nova, you will find a chapter written by Waterhouse JC, Marshall TG, Fenter B, Mangin M, Blaney G on High levels of active 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D despite low levels of the 25-hydroxyvitamin D precursor - Implications of dysregulated vitamin D for diagnosis and treatment of Chronic Disease A copy of the chapter can be found at this Internet address:
http://winmlm.neostrada.pl/vitamindbook/vitamindnewresearch.pdf

This transcript of the vitamin D presentation at our LAX conference, includes related information from the book chapter and information on hyperpararthyroidism.


Why are so many doctors ordering vitamin D supplementation?

The Truth About Vitamin D

Understanding Scientific Studies

Studies citing bacterial cause for chronic diseases

Amy Praol's site is a wealth of information

Bacteriality — Exploring Chronic Disease



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 Posted: Wed Oct 29th, 2008 03:57

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Knochen,

Thanks for your reply. Rather than wading through gobs of general information about the MP, I was hoping that Dr. Marshall had specifically addressed this specific finding, which I suppose is rather recent. Has he done so, either here or at marshallprotocol.com? If he hasn't, would he care to?

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 Posted: Wed Oct 29th, 2008 05:50

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Tim,

Please note what Knochen said at the top of his post  -

We really don't have the time to argue each point, but can certainly give you some further information to consider.
If we don't have the time, Dr. Marshall certainly does not have the time, so no, this particular research has not been specifically discussed.  We know what we know and reading the links Knochen provided above will teach you what we know thanks to Dr. Marshall's research. 

Whether you accept it or not is entirely up to you. 

Please let us know if you'd like to learn more about the Marshall Protocol, but note that no matter what part you want to learn about, it does involve a lot of reading.

Best,
Natalie



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