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Karl B
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Posted: Thu Sep 18th, 2008 07:01 |
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A friend of mine has been diagnosed with atopic exzema and
chronic allergy.
Reading about AE reminds me of sarcoidosis.
Is AE something that might be cured by MP?
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JoshR
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Posted: Thu Sep 18th, 2008 15:21 |
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Hi Karl,
Eczema is similar to psoriasis, and the latter is listed in Is the MP an applicable treatment for my disease or symptoms?. The way to know for sure would be for your friend to get his/her D-metabolites tested. He or she could also try a therapeutic probe.Last edited on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 15:22 by JoshR
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Posted: Thu Sep 18th, 2008 16:54 |
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Thanks, Josh, for those good links.
Hi Karl,
Practically all my many allergies have gone away on the MP. But my lifelong atopic eczema is still around, at present in a fairly minor way. It comes and goes with the different antibiotic combinations we use in Phase 3 of the MP. I had one blissful period when for a few months it was gone, and I'm certain that it will eventually go for good. Others have had various skin conditions heal too.
You might like to direct your friend to the main MP site MarshallProtocol.com, and see if s/he's interested in finding out more 
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Karl B
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Posted: Sat Sep 20th, 2008 10:39 |
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From wikipedia:
Since the twentieth century, many mucosal inflammatory disorders have become dramatically more common; atopic eczema (AE) is a classic example of such a disease. It now affects 10-20% of children and 1-3% of adults in industrialized countries.
In case this is a mild form of th1 inflammation it is now very common...
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Karl B
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Posted: Sat Sep 20th, 2008 10:41 |
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| Has anybody grouped all the autoimmune problems together and seen if say a person having sarcoidosis might give his partner another autoimmune probem like MS?
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Posted: Sat Sep 20th, 2008 10:57 |
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Everybody has the bugs... just that 'healthy' people's immune systems haven't been overpowered by them yet. But something is making more and more people go down with them, and earlier in life... could be vitamin D supplementation plays a big part.
Simple explanation of the Marshall Pathogenesis
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Posted: Sat Sep 20th, 2008 11:12 |
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See Am I contagious?
Will re-infection occur if my partner or family members are not treated?
Disease clusters & Husband/Wife cases
Many or most of our members report signs of Th1 in their families, and not necessarily the same diagnosed disease as their own. Disease names are, after all, only convenient labels for a set of symptoms, which vary from one person to another, probably according to the species of bacteria that have the upper hand, but maybe also due to other factors such as lifestyle.
CWD bacteria can come to us in many ways, even in food, so there's no need to cut yourself off from loved ones for fear of infecting them
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Karl B
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Posted: Sat Sep 20th, 2008 17:49 |
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I am correctly calculating the risk of infecting my parter to one in 5 or 19%?
Wikipedia:
Sarcoidosis occurs throughout the world in all races with an average incidence of 16.5/100,000 in men and 19/100,000 in women.
NIH ACCESS study:
The NIH ACCESS study found an incidence of Sarcoidosis in spouses 1000 times higher than could be expected.
And this is only counting spouses that got sarcoidosis from being exposed to sarc, and not all the other "auto-immune" problems that might follow from getting massive doses of L-Form bacteria
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Julia
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Posted: Sat Sep 20th, 2008 19:42 |
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| Karl, your partner might have infected you in the first place! The bugs are all around us, and we share them with everyone. The difference between the person who goes down with a chronic disease and the person who is still functioning, is not just in the availability of the bugs, but in the health of the person's immune system. Besides, by the time you find out you've got a Th1 disease, you've probably already passed it on. So there is no need to avoid contact.
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Karl B
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Posted: Sat Sep 20th, 2008 22:14 |
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I am currently single and considering a future relationship.
The thought of passing on a possibly painful and debilitating
decease bugs me.
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Posted: Sat Sep 20th, 2008 23:03 |
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Karl, you're a man in a million, lotsa blokes know zilch about biology.
Here are you learning fast about the immune system and how to make or keep it healthy, what a good partner is that . PS I'm not available  Sal
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Karl B
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Posted: Sun Sep 21st, 2008 00:14 |
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Dr Marshall wrote: "The bacteria causing sarcoidosis (and other Th1 diseases ) are transmitted during sexual contact"
I am in phase 3 since 2 months with almost no herxing.
I suspect the amount of meds I am eating is killing off all/most of the free swimming bacteria, and that CWD potentially hiding inside sperm is not a problem.
How far into the MP does the level of CWD get low enough to have unprotected sex? How to test?
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Posted: Sun Sep 21st, 2008 09:43 |
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Karl,
Pathogens are everywhere. Protect yourself where you can, and continue the MP so your immune system can do the job it was intended to do. Try not to get into a bacteria counting exercise.
Some links are better than others, but the FAQ has these listed:
Cell Wall Deficient Bacteria and the Marshall Protocol
Why can't CWD bacteria be detected with tests?
Won't the bacteria become immune/resistant to the antibiotics if I take them a long time?
Babies and bacteria: How pathogens may affect an infact during its first weeks of life
What effect would concurrent viral and CWD bacterial infections have on 1,25-D?
How does Th1 inflammation develop? What is successive infection?
Side Topic Discussion Related to the Marshall Protocol
Studies Citing Bacterial Cause for Th1 inflammation
Dr Marshall's Perspective a Forum with many Topics
http://bacteriality.com/2008/05/26/biofilm/ Bacteriality has many Topics
Best to you Karl--Janet
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Karl B
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Posted: Sun Sep 21st, 2008 21:57 |
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I am confused about the proof that sun is bad for people on MP
My understanding:
Before MP: Sun generates extra vitamin D that people with th1 cant handle and they get extra symptoms incredibly fast (nothing else works that fast)
During MP: The patient now has vitamin D mostly under control, but the sun
still gives the herx like symptoms
Theory:
The sun is both good and bad.
When on enough advanced on MP the sun actually does only the good healing thing that is so engraved in peoples perceptions, but now the herx from immunopathology is mistaken for the vitamin D poisoning of pre MP
Question:
Is there any (even anecdotal) evidence that sun exposure when advanced in MP is bad for you, apart from being unpleasant?
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Julia
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Posted: Mon Sep 22nd, 2008 00:00 |
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Karl, it's a complex question, but you should be able to find something in this topic and its many links to help you understand: Light Sensitivity-Basic Information.
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Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 06:48 |
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| Ok, I experimented on myself. Sun made me feel bad, but not feel like I am getting better. Not very scientific, but what can you do with only one body to experiment on...
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Karl B
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Posted: Sat Jan 3rd, 2009 03:02 |
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I recently took an Art of Living basic course.
It centers around a 20 minute long breathing technique called Kriya.
It seems to me that this technique raises the oxygen level in the blood possibly helping (potentiating) the immune system.
The teachers claimed the technique also in general cleaned the body of anything harmful.
Does anybody have any experience how this technique affects patients on MP?
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