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WALTERBRIAN
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 Posted: Mon Sep 8th, 2008 22:37

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Hi,

I'm a 38yr old male who has been suffering with Sarcoidosis and more recently a hyperthyroid (diagnosed as Hashimoto's thyroiditis) condition.  Presently, I'm taking tapazole to damp down my thyroid production...it's not working very well to say the least.  I'm constantly fatigued, anxious feelings, pain, irritable, brain fog, ect......which my Endo says is caused by an "anxiety disorder"....I say bullocks...  I'm wondering if I actually have Sarcoidosis of the Thryroid and am proceeding with my doctor to determine if this is the case.  I'd like to know if I can start the MP while on tapazole?

 

Thanks for your time.

BRIAN

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 Posted: Tue Sep 9th, 2008 01:02

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Hi Brian,

Hashimoto's usually means hypothyroidism, so your post sent me googling, and I learned from Wikipedia:

In many cases, Hashimoto's thyroiditis results in hypothyroidism, although in its acute phase, it can cause a transient hyperthyroidism thyrotoxic state.

Sarcoidosis is systemic, and many of our members have had thyroid problems.  Please see Thyroid disease, especially the section on Thyroid supplementation while on the Marshall Protocol

You're right to suspect that you're not going to get better until you tackle the sarc itself, and the MP is the only way to help your immune system get at the CWD bacteria.

Don't stop or alter your thyroid medication without consulting your doctor.

"What is the Marshall Protocol?"

Simple Explanations

Sarcoidosis Facts

D-metabolites tests

Hypervitaminosis-D Symptoms

Success Stories

Bacteriality - a readable blog-style website by one of our members, with science-made-easy articles, an introductory 90-minute video, and interviews with recovering patients - an excellent introduction to the MP.

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Please ask any further questions here at your own personal thread.

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 Posted: Tue Sep 9th, 2008 06:21

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 Brian, The Tapazole could be taken with the MP but as you may know it can sometime effect blood counts so labs (CBC as well as regular thyroid labs) would need to be done. In your type of thyroiditis you can go from hyper to hypo so it bears watching closely. In my opinion Tapazole would be preferable to surgery in most cases, as it is hoped that the MP would help you return to normal thyroid function. Sarc can effect any type of tissue it seems. All of your symptoms can be caused by TH1 infection; but elevations in thyroid levels can also contribute significantly to symptoms. "Anxiety disorder" is usually used when physicians can not understand the physiology that is really causing the symptoms. It may be an "anxiety disorder" but that fails to explain much, just as "Chronic Fatigue Syndrome" is just a label of symptoms and does not point to true cause of the fatigue.
best, P.B.



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 Posted: Tue Sep 9th, 2008 14:21

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Thanks for the response.  I believe I've been wrongly diagnosed.  I was first diagnosed as hyperthyroid in January 2008.  I have NEVER been hypothyroid and from my research the acute phase should only last up to 3 months before you either becoming euthyroid or hypo.  This is not the case with me, I stopped tapazole after taking it for six months (as directed by my Endo) and after a month have returned to a hyperthyroid state.  With that being said, I've come to the conclusion that I either was wrongly diagnosed with Hasimoto's and in fact have Graves's (my right eye is popping out of it's socket) or Sarcoid of the thyroid. 

Is there a test (biopsy) that can be performed to determine is sarc is in my thyroid?

Also, where can I purchase Noir glasses in Canada? SW Ontario specifically.


 

Last edited on Tue Sep 9th, 2008 17:05 by WALTERBRIAN

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 Posted: Tue Sep 9th, 2008 23:32

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Brian, you don't need a biopsy.  If you have sarc, it's likely to be everywhere, and you can assume that all signs of ill-health are related to it.
Physicians like to have a tissue biopsy to diagnose sarcoidosis, and this is largely due to the fact that the common treatments for sarcoidosis are so fraught with side effects that biopsy proof is needed to justify their use. Biopsy is not always required, though, and now the serum D-metabolite tests are a good tool for measuring systemic inflammation.  
(from the topic SARCOIDOSIS)

As I've healed from my sarc on the MP, the most surprising things have also gone away that I never connected with sarc - and nor did my doctors!  But it's all Th1 disease, and the MP enables your immune system to deal with it.

Details of ordering NoIRs are here.   Since Canadians have mentioned they've encountered customs fees when getting NoIR glasses shipped from the US, it might be worth asking the Canadian National Institute for the Blind how the sunglasses may be obtained. The CNIB carries NoIR glasses in their assistive devices product catalogue at URL
http://tinyurl.com/9rx9e



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 Posted: Thu Sep 11th, 2008 14:10

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Are there any health issue with taking long term antibiotics as suggested in the protocol?  I would assume that these drugs would kill healthy bacterii as well as the CWD type.

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 Posted: Thu Sep 11th, 2008 17:46

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See Won't the bacteria become resistant to the antibiotics

Dr Marshall and some other researchers are not convinced that there is such a thing as beneficial bacteria.  See Should I take probiotics?

Other discussions that touch on this subject:

Some Bacteria make you Fat, some Thin

Probiotics kill 24 people in The Netherlands

Capnine - biofilm bacteria's dirty little secret



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